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CINDYinIN
12-08-2005, 03:51 PM
Because each prison is a little different, I thought those of us with knowledge about phones, mail, visitation, quirky rules, etc. at a certain prison could post in each prison's thread to give new people some much needed information. Please post any information you have about WTSP in this thread.

Thanks!
CindyinIN

sjmmom
05-29-2007, 05:02 AM
It's been a while sence I have talked to you.I hope all is well.I have a question ? Why is it so hard to get transferred from WTSP( where my son is incarcerated) to a place closer to home ?We only live about 30 minites from Turney Center and it's 124 miles one way to WTSP , not only does the gas prices effect our visiting , but living on retirement makes it hard to swing it also. My son has 3 small childrem that we take to visit him . They have a very close relationship . It's hard and we do sacrafice so we can take the girls to visit . Isn't there a rule, policey ect. that applies to this applies to a situation like this ? Thank you so much , you're the only person who I can talk about this . I'm very much grateful for the knowloedge you have shared w/ me . You have a great day and may it be full of Gods many Blessings.

sjmmom

CINDYinIN
05-29-2007, 07:36 AM
There are so many with the same problem you have. Unfortunately, Tennessee does not make it a policy to house inmates close to home. How long has your son been in? Perhaps he's eligible for an incentive transfer. He can try talking to his counselor to put in for reclassification. You can send letters to the wardens at WTSP and at Turney Center to try to appeal for a move, but it does not often work. Believe me, I understand your frustration. We went through the same thing with my brother for about three years. He was finally able to move, but it did take awhile.

Best of luck to you and your family. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

MissinMyMan25
10-22-2007, 12:50 AM
All I know is the people that work there are extremely rude and not very willing to give information. You have to be approved to visit just like everywhere else. When your man writes you and it's only 5 sentences long, that's because he had to stand in line forever just to use a pencil. Or at least that's how it is when they get STG'ed (Security Threat Group) Hopefully my man will be out very soon and I won't have to deal with this anymore....he's not supposed to be there anyway:angry:

twistedshorty
03-16-2008, 07:00 PM
Hello,
My husband is on the list for an out of state transfer from California. If anyone can tell me any information about this prison it would be greatly appreciated. Not sure if he is going here or Arizona or Mississippi. The rumor on the yard in california is as soon as the california guy's are gettiong off the bus the mexican mofia is takin them out or at least putting a hurt on them any informaiton on this would also be appreciated. thanks

mcandme2
12-29-2008, 09:50 AM
Hi I am new to this site-not sure if I am where I am suppose to be, but I'll ask anyway. My pop just got transferred to WTSP from the county (where he spent 23 out of 24 hours in a two man cell w/4 people, NO outside time whatsoever) they took him on Christmas eve, a time we were scheduled to meet, no warning at all. How long before we can visit him? Does he have to have the global comm. or can he just call collect? It's been about 6 days-no one has heard from him. How safe is this prison?

superdreamATM
01-05-2009, 09:20 AM
MC is your dad at CBCX now? if they send him to Turney Center or South Central, he won't be all that far from you, maybe around an hour or hour and half drive. I will keep your family in my prayers!

RobTheGreat
01-13-2009, 05:21 PM
Hi all, I thought I'd drop in and say hi. I just got released from WTSP on Dec 23rd, so I can prob answer any questions about that place, just ask. I AM SO GLAD TO BE OUT!

Rob

CINDYinIN
01-13-2009, 05:23 PM
Rob-
Congratulations! I'm sure you'll be a great source of information for many here on PTO. I hope that we can help you too!

superdreamATM
01-14-2009, 08:45 AM
Rob thanks for joining. There are alot of people on here with loved ones in West TN. My husband is at South Central. PTO has been a wealth of information and support for me, and having someone here who has been through the prison system will really help us alot! Thank you!

MyHeartIsMissin
03-03-2009, 12:08 PM
Hey,

My name is Nichole and Im new to this site. Well I been a member since 08 but never really got on here because my man was still in county. He just recently got transfered to WTSP. He has to serve 5 years at 30%. We just had a baby and he hasn't even got to meet her yet. It's killing me. This is going to be crzy because I'm so used to visiting him every week in county and now it will probably be like once or twice a month considering the fact that I live in Clarksville and this prison is like 3 hours and some minutes away. It's rediculous. If anybody has any information on this prison please write me I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much!!

papisgirl
03-03-2009, 12:17 PM
Welcome to PTO

cegsgirl
03-03-2009, 03:57 PM
My husband is at WTSP. What would you like to know?

RobTheGreat
03-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Welcome to PTO! I am going to post an overview of WTSP soon that should help, I just have to make enough posts where I can post links!

Good luck!

RobTheGreat
03-03-2009, 09:00 PM
I just got out of WTSP in December and thought I would post a bit of an overview for WTSP, since there are probably a lot of
people wanting info about it when their loved one is sent there for classification and I know how hard it can be to get info
from the prison system. First of all, don't worry, WTSP, is not nearly as dangerous as the rumors would have you believe.
If your loved one keeps himself out of debt (for tobacco, dope, gambling, even commisary), isn't in a gang, and isn't a
"hot-head", I doubt he will have so much as a shoving match while he is there. I was there for two years, and in that time
only saw three fights, and heard about maybe a dozen more, and only a couple of those involved anthing much more than wounded
pride. All of the incidents I heard about were because of the big three--money (debt), drugs, or gangs.

As for classification, it is a 30-day process where they interview you a few times, have you fill out -paperwork, take a few
tests, and have medical poke and prod at you. Classification is how they determine where your loved one will do his time, he
could likely be shipped again, and if he wants to be closer, now is the time to talk to the counselors about that. Where he
goes will depend on bed space, institutional records, and security score. The security score is based on a bunch of factors,
like institutional disciplinary record, charges, escape history, etc. Ideally you want the score to be 6 or less (minimum
security), that means he will get more "good time" and get out faster. He can also qualfy (must be under 10 years to go, no
warrants or holds, no escapes, etc.,) for minimum direct or minimum trustee, which would mean he can work outside the fence
and be housed at an annex. Anyway, once they classify your loved one, he will be moved within a day or two to another unit
(3, 4, 9, 11, or 12 if staying at WTSP, 10-A (transit) if going to another prison, or 10-B if he is staying and gets classed
direct or trustee).

If he stays there, WTSP is broken up into 3 "Sites" although they are all right together. Site 1 was actually the old Fort
Pillow Prison across the street, that is now empty. The MSC Unit (also called the Annex) is next door to the old prison and
is also sometimes referred to as Site 1, although it is actually part of Site 2 for admin purposes.

Site 2 & 3 are right next to each other, but are seperated by a series of fences and gates. When you come to visit, the
checkpoint building where you will sign in is betweeen the two sites and then you will follow a walkway to the visitation
gallery for which ever site he is in. Site 2 is the "High Security" part of the prison--4 of the Units are Max, Close, or the
Hole, and 2 units are Med security. All the units on Site 3 are Min/Med, although inmates in units 7 (classification) & 8
(protective custody & drug unit) are not allowed on the compound. I was never at site 2 (almost went to the hole over there a
couple times, but managed to avoid it), so dont' really know what it is like, but I think Site 3 is where most people would
rather be. Of course the best place to be is the MSC, which I was for awhile. You get many priveleges there you don't get
anywhere else such as working outside the fence (even in town for a couple crews), outside visits where you can cook out,
bigger rooms, and a lot more freedom.

As for visitation, only immediate family may visit during classification, and I've no idea why they do this, but it is a
state-wide rule. In fact, even if you can vist while your loved one is in classification, it would only be for 2 hours and
non-contact (behind glass), so isn't really worth a long drive. In order to visit your loved one you have to fill out an
application (for you and any children) and be approved (can take about 3-4 weeks, so I'd send it right away). If he is not
yet classified when they receive the application, they will file it until he is, just have him remind the counselor to have
those apps processed once he is classified. You can download the application at:
http://www.state.tn.us/correction/pdf/visitationform.pdf

while your at it, you might want to look at this:
http://www.state.tn.us/correction/institutions/visitationmanual/wtspvisitationmanual-apr08.pdf

The visitation is not bad, it's is in an area that is more like an airport terminal waiting area than a prison, and has a
play area for kids, vending machines for sandwiches and snacks, and microwaves. For the machines, you have to buy a debit
card to use, since money is not allowed in the visitation gallery (lock your purse or wallet in the trunk, just bring money
for the debit card machine, figure on $15 each, since the prices are a bit high. Don't load too much money, because another
prison's machine won't take that card! Your loved one will likely eat more than you expect since it is a nice break from
prison food. Also, when you visit, be careful how you dress, because they can be overly picky at times. It might be a good
idea to keep a change of clothes in the car in case they won't let you in with what you are wearing, I have heard of many
visitors having to make emergency trips to walmart so they can get in, and if you are going to drive several hours (my people
had to drive SEVEN!), I think you want all the time you can get. My visits where always from open to close on both days (sat
& sun 8-3), and they have limited visits fri night, but never had one, so am not sure how that works. On Holidays, they
often only allow you to visit one day, not both, so I usually didn't have visits then, since my people had to come so far.
There is a Super 8 motel that is in Ripley that is pretty reasonable if you stay the night. You are allowed to hug & kiss at
the beginning and end of the visit, and can hold hands during the visit, but that is pretty much it. You can sometimes get
by with more depending on who is working, but I would never risk losing visits over it, and you never know who might be
watching on the cameras. If your loved one makes it to MSC, you can have outside picnic visits after April 1st, which are
wonderful. They are completely outside the fence, you can bring food and grill out, sit under the trees, and it is much more
lenient than the main compound.

Other things about good ole WTSP (gawd I hated that place), you can send him stamps (up to 40) in letters, as well as photos
(no poloroids or nudity), if you want to put money on your loved one's books, be sure to use a POSTAL money order, any other
kind takes longer to hit the books, and they don't accept checks or cash. Once classified, you can order him a package with
a TV, radio, clothes, hot pot, all kinds of things:
http://tninmatepackage.com/

A TV is a really nice thing to have in prison, and they do have cable at WTSP, but not all prisons do. They have about 24
channels, and it costs $4 per cell per month (what a ripoff, but what are you gonna do!) Don't order anything if your loved
one is in classification, since he is not allowed to have a package in classification, and I think they made a new rule that
you have to wait 90 days, but am not sure. I was classified at Brushy Mountain, and stayed there the first year, and they did
packages different than most places. I was on package restriction by the time I got to WTSP, so never got one there. The
place you have to order from, Union Supply, has a monopoly so their prices run a bit high, but are not just way out of line.

The phones at all TN prisons use Global Tel Link, and the cheapest way is to put money in his phone debit account (10%
discount), by sending a money order or cashier's check directly to them, I am not sure of the address, but it is posted in
several places, and in the handbook, so your loved one can give it to you. Phone calls get expensive in a hurry so you
probably wnat to work out when and how often he should call, depending on what you can afford.

I know it is a hard thing to have a loved one in prison, I know I'll spend the rest of my life making up for what I put the
people who care about me through, but be as patient as you can, most inmates are struggling with addiction and/or mental
illness and need your love and help, just don't become an enabler for them, and that includes while they are in prison. Drugs
and alcohol are easily available, so if he starts asking you to send money to other people (will probably say it's for a
debt, buy something, etc.,) or going through a lot of money on his books, he may be trying to pay for his drugs. I managed
with God's help to stay clean and sober the whole time, and I would encourage you to remind your loved ones there are
programs to help.

All TN prisons have pretty good volunteer ministries for christians, less so for other faiths. At Site #3, their is an AA
meeting ever Friday night, and it is as good as any outside meeting I've been to. Every so often they will offer a "Life
Without a Crutch" class in the units, that is not bad (and might help with parole). There is also a drug treament program in
Unit 8-B (Therauetic Community), that is a 9-12 month program, but I don't think much of it. The staff is totally
unqualified, and there is actually more drug activity in that unit than any other. When I was in the program, I actually saw
someone nodding off with a needle in his arm out in the open in the pod! The TC is a good idea in theory, but the excution of
it is horrible. On the bright side, if you can stick it out in that program, it greatly increases your chance of making
parole (if not succeeding on parole), and they will let you transfer to pretty much the prison of your choice upon
completion.

For me, the best thing to keep me on track was God's grace and the volunteer ministry. I know many stories are
told of the "jail house conversions", but give your loved one a chance and encouragement and most of all, your prayers, and
while you are at it, say one for me--I may be out, but am struggling with employment and other issues! I will certainly pray
for everyone in prison and their loved ones, and wish you all well. If you have any other questions, or updated information
feel free to private message me, I may not know, but at least I won't guess like most prison staff do!


God bless,

Rob

msbhaven
03-05-2009, 07:21 PM
thanks for the info my husband is there he was the trustee until last month when he got lost in the woods. well anyway i really thoght it was nice when i went to visit him during the summer and we grilled out and he got to play with our daughters all day. glad to hear that u are out of there though.

RobTheGreat
03-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Yeah, the outside visits really are great. Don't feel bad, I got kicked out of the MSC myself in April of last year, did the last 7 months in Unit 11. What is his name, I may know him?

MissSRD
03-17-2009, 09:14 PM
My fiance' was just sent to WTSP two weeks ago. I need as much info about it. I would like to know more "inside" things like what life is like on a day to day basis...

RobTheGreat
03-18-2009, 10:20 AM
My fiance' was just sent to WTSP two weeks ago. I need as much info about it. I would like to know more "inside" things like what life is like on a day to day basis...

I don't know if you saw my "overview" on the first page or not, but you might want to check that out for general policies and what not. As to what life is like on the inside, I don't think there is an easy answer to that one. Not to sound flip, but it is one of those things that you just can't fully understand unless you've been there. The other thing about that is every one's experiences will be a bit different, so I could only speak to my experience. Since he is just arrived he is still in Unit 7 (classification) for the first 30 days, so there is not very much to do while still in 7.

Having said that, I will try to give an overview of an "average" day while I was in there. I usually got up about 6 AM and fixed a cup of instant coffee in the hotpot, read from my Bible, and maybe caught the weather on the news. At 6:30 am they "pop" the doors. The doors have a button in the cell that will allow it to open when the pod is not locked down. Many of us would jam a toothpick into the button to keep it pressed so when they take us off lock down, the door will open immediately (you can here the mechanism buzz when it opens). Depending on which unit is going first to breakfast, and whether or not I am going (many mornings it was so awful, was better to do with out). I would then either head to the chow hall for breakfast or grab a shower. To get to the chow hall you walk across a huge grassy field (have to stay on the sidewalk though, wouldn't want a petty write up for walking in the grass). Depending on how quickly you walked (many people practically run to chow!), you wait in line anywhere from 5-15 mins to get a plastic tray (think school lunchroom), with usually some frozen eggs form a bag (they put the whole bag in boiling water to cook them--yuck!), some hard bread they call "toast" and some bland grits, oatmeal or Cream of Wheat. After breakfast I'd head back to the pod, grab my stuff and get a shower before work.

The showers are tiny little enclosed rooms with a window in the door. We always put our towel over the door to cover the window, and you can lock it from the inside to keep somebody from getting to you while most vulnerable (much better than Brushy where the showers are in the open at the ends of each walk!). After showering I would sit around and chat with friends waiting for "school call." The way WTSP is set up is called controlled movement, you are not supposed to leave your pod unless you have a written pass or they make a call out, such as "chow call", "med call", "school call", "church call", etc., I worked as a Teacher's Aide in the vocational school (at least at the end, at one time I was at the annex and worked as a clerk a the lawnmower shop and later on the community service that works in town). Usually school stated at 8 am, but this could vary quite a bit since they sometimes took a long time to do make the call or might forget altogether. When they call school they tell you which classes are off that day, and that list is normally about 1/3 of the teachers (must be nice to work for the state!). If my teacher was out it meant a long boring day in the pod, if not, I head to the school building, which is right next to the chow hall.

At the school building we had to run the gauntlet of Ms. Winbush and the metal detector. Ms. Winbush is a crabby, evil thing that worked the school building door,and was hated by all (teachers and other staff included). She would seemingly at random decide what you could or could not bring on any give day (Bibles were a big no-no in her book!), and she would try to push everyone to the point that they'd step out of line so she could send them to the hole (her one and only joy in life!) You have to take off you belt, take keys out of your pocket, etc., to get through the metal detector which was always set way to sensitive, in fact you often had to take off your coat because of the metal snaps. Once through , I head to class, and breathe a sigh of relief that at least one day I won't be quite so bored. My job entailed, printing sign in sheets for each day, and preparing absentee reports, count slips, grading tests and so forth. It usually only took maybe an hour to get all the morning paperwork ready (if you have ever heard that inmates run the prisons--this is part of what they are talking about--the teacher I worked for didn't' even know what all paperwork was required, and certainly couldn't do it on his own!) and then I had to go take it the school office where a run in with Winbush is always likely. Even knowing I am a teacher's aide and have to go in the office to make copies, get supplies, turn reports and so on, she'd always want to harass me for being in the office.

They have a rule in the vocational school that the teacher's have to be relieved before they can go to the bathroom, or leave the classroom for any reason. It is also a rule that all staff should have a functioning radio to call for help if needed. Since the teacher can't leave, when his battery in the radio went dead, he'd send me to the office to get another. For months, this was never a problem, then suddenly Winbush, decided to make an issue of it, and I would have to try to sneak down there to get a battery! It's not like the teacher gave me the radio itself, so shouldn't' be security risk--lol. Of course, his radio usually sat on my desk and I'd listen for anyone that was calling for him while he was teaching class, so it is not as if I didn't almost always have access! I put all this in just so you can see some of the petty garbage that we have to deal with. It really isn't the big things that drive you nuts, it is the 100 petty things every day. Once I finish my work, I could read or play pinball on my computer (yes, an inmate had computer access, but most didn't, I had a good job), of course if Winbush or the Teacher supervisor came in I'd quickly switch to a report or something so they wouldn't' know I had games on the computer.

The morning session of school went on until count cleared when we went to lunch. Count was always a pain in the school, since we aren't' in our cells at the 11 am count, we are considered "out of count", so a list of everyone in class had to be filled out and signed by the teacher, and if some one left class after it was filled out, I couldn't' cross the name out--oh no, a whole new list had to b e filled out, and by some weird rule it had to be hand written, not typed!? During count they made us stand in two rows (maybe so they wouldn't' have to take shoes and socks off to count!?) while they counted. Once they announced that count was clear we headed to lunch and had to repeat the ordeal at the metal detector, wait in line for 5-15 mins, and then stay in the chow hall until it was time to go back to school. They were supposed to allow 30 mins, so the teachers, get a full 30 min break, but it was often longer we would have to just sit there. Once they told us it was time to go back, we had to clear the metal detector for the third time and then go back to class. My afternoon paperwork only took 20-30 mins at most unless it was a test day, so that mean more games or sometimes I'd write letters and print them out. School ended at 2:30 pm (long "work" day, huh!) and we pass through the detector for the fourth time and head back to the pod. About once a week they would have officers waiting outside the school for another search, sometimes that was a pat-down, sometimes a strip search.

Most days we would have yard time after school until the 3:30 lock-down, but I wasn't much for yard. Four pods (512) men share a yard that is about the size of an average suburban back yard (maybe 1/2 an acre or so) was just a little too crowded for my taste. They have volleyball and basketball out there, and not much else. Mostly it is a time to talk and wheel and deal for dope, liquor, tobacco, etc., During that hour I'd usually shoot the bull with a few friends at one of the tables in the pod, or maybe play a little rummy. We are locked down from 3:30 until 4:30 for another count, so this time I usually watched TV or took a nap. Once the doors popped at 4:30 again, we'd either go to chow, or if I had the stuff to cook we would cook our dinner. Prison cooking could be a whole series of articles unto itself, but we actually came up with some pretty good concoctions. I would usually spend the evening either in church (we had services every night usually from 6:30-8, I went once or twice a week) or I'd talk with my friends, walk laps, call home, or play cards.

8:30 is lock down for the night, and after that I'd usually watch 2-3 hours of TV and go to sleep. This is just my experience and different people would do their time very differently, also this routine is subject to big upheavals at any time due to shakedowns, lock-downs, a fight somewhere, etc., Truthfully, the best days are really the most uneventful, since any change in prison is usually for the worse, not better.

Hope this gives some kind of idea that day-to-day life sort of becomes routine, in not normal after a while, and that the time can be what you make of it. I can't really tell you what Unit 7 is like, never having been there. I was classified at Brushy Mountain, and that is a VERY different environment.

superdreamATM
03-18-2009, 12:42 PM
Rob, although my husband is not at WTSP (he's at South Central), i REALLY appreciate and thank you for your detailed posts! i think in general the same things happen at all the prisons, same typical daytime schedules, etc. Were you in RDAP? I'm assuming that you were. My husband is in RDAP and just started the 2nd phase. He thinks its a joke, but he's sticking with it for parole reasons. Thank you for helping every one here. Your "insiders" info is great!

RobTheGreat
03-18-2009, 01:38 PM
I did do the drug program at WTSP, they call theirs "Therapeutic Community" not RDAP, and I think the treatment model is different, and that program is also a joke. I didn't finish it, I got kicked out for political reasons--I was standing up for our right to have Christian services, and angered the director who wanted no such thing so they said I was trying to "manipulate" staff when I tried to find out when I would graduate and used it as an excuse to get me out of there. I was angry about it at the time, but think it worked out for the best. I ended up getting a ruling in my favor on a grievance that went all the way to the commisioner, ensuring that the director would not be able to prevent church services in the Unit, and feel good about standing by my principles even though it probably caused me to serve another year and a half to flatten out. Now I don't have anyone to report to and can just concentrate on putting my life back together, plus I was able to spend my first two weeks out of state (something no PO would have allowed) visiting my family in Denver.

I would tell him to hang in there if possible though, I know the Parole Board puts a lot of stock in these programs, it is such a shame they don't do a better job considering all the federal grant money they are eating up. I know from experience that most of the inmates in the program at WTSP have no interest at all in making a change, but for those few that do, they should try to have a better program. I know for me personally, the AA meetings they have on Friday nights did a lot more for my sobriety than anything in the program, and ironically, the board doesn't give any real creedence to AA attendance.

Brian'slady
03-18-2009, 03:29 PM
Wow, a guy standing up for church services!!! Way to go Rob!!! I'm impressed!!! Nice guy! Was wondering if you were on parole or not. Glad you got to travel and see family! How did you like Denver? Lots of snow while there? Sounds like there is a lot of petty stuff. My guy says they pick on you when they're in a bad mood for all kinds of petty stuff, or if they just don't like you. And some times they just make up stuff to get you in trouble when you really didn't do anything. Must be hard. They need to let them blow off steam somehow, instead of having to keep their mouths shut and keep it all in. All that does is make it all come out on another inmate or employee. Just makes it worse for themselves. They should have a bunch of punching bags or scream rooms! LOL At least out here we can smart off to someone if we want, or even tell them off good. Stay good, and stay out!!! I think you'll make it! Good luck!!!

RobTheGreat
03-18-2009, 04:41 PM
I'm no Saint, but felt it was something I needed to do, and it probably appealed to that rebellious part of me to "buck the system"! No I am not on parole, I expired my sentence, so I don't have to worry about all the petty nonsense in "the system". The petty nonsense isn't just part of the system, IT IS the system--lol, even staff will tell you that it is all petty.

djd0522
03-31-2009, 02:08 PM
Thank you Rob for all the helpful information. My husband was transferred to WTSP yesterday from county. He is in Classification now. I haven't heard from him yet, but I'm sure he's going through all the paperwork and evals now. I did have one question if you could answer. My husband has a nerve damage problem in his face that he has been going on medical furloughs in Nashville to see specialist like Neurosurgeons, etc. Where do you think they will assign him since he has some extensive medical test and treatments he needs to take?

rooster123
04-21-2010, 01:36 PM
All I know is the people that work there are extremely rude and not very willing to give information. You have to be approved to visit just like everywhere else. When your man writes you and it's only 5 sentences long, that's because he had to stand in line forever just to use a pencil. Or at least that's how it is when they get STG'ed (Security Threat Group) Hopefully my man will be out very soon and I won't have to deal with this anymore....he's not supposed to be there anyway:angry:
I am new to this site, but I was wondering if you could help me with some questions about west ten state pen? My husband calls me and writes every once in a while,but I am having some trust issues. He says he goes to church every day, ????/ He seems to be too busy but i don't know why/ I am ready to file for divorce because of some pretty nasty things I have heard about what men do to men in there. Can you elaborate for me if all this is true or not?:confused:

rooster123
04-21-2010, 01:40 PM
Hi I am new to this site-not sure if I am where I am suppose to be, but I'll ask anyway. My pop just got transferred to WTSP from the county (where he spent 23 out of 24 hours in a two man cell w/4 people, NO outside time whatsoever) they took him on Christmas eve, a time we were scheduled to meet, no warning at all. How long before we can visit him? Does he have to have the global comm. or can he just call collect? It's been about 6 days-no one has heard from him. How safe is this prison?
My husband has been there for 8 mths and he has to send you a visiting app and I beleive it has to be 30 days before he can have visits

sah1211
04-21-2010, 09:03 PM
I am not sure if anyone can help...
Hello! I am wondering if anyone knows anything about good time and if it is prorated at all? My fiance is at SCCF and he is supposed to be coming home next month 5/10 and no one at the prison is helpful not even his counselors. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

rooster123
05-15-2010, 07:07 AM
Hey,

My name is Nichole and Im new to this site. Well I been a member since 08 but never really got on here because my man was still in county. He just recently got transfered to WTSP. He has to serve 5 years at 30%. We just had a baby and he hasn't even got to meet her yet. It's killing me. This is going to be crzy because I'm so used to visiting him every week in county and now it will probably be like once or twice a month considering the fact that I live in Clarksville and this prison is like 3 hours and some minutes away. It's rediculous. If anybody has any information on this prison please write me I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much!!
Hey Nicole my husband is in there too but he has changed alot in the last 8 months. We were visiting every weekend when he was close. I haven't seen him since he was moved there. His name is Josephus in there and I would appreciate any info you might have about this prison also. Contact me with anything or questions. Thankyou

rooster123
05-15-2010, 07:13 AM
I did do the drug program at WTSP, they call theirs "Therapeutic Community" not RDAP, and I think the treatment model is different, and that program is also a joke. I didn't finish it, I got kicked out for political reasons--I was standing up for our right to have Christian services, and angered the director who wanted no such thing so they said I was trying to "manipulate" staff when I tried to find out when I would graduate and used it as an excuse to get me out of there. I was angry about it at the time, but think it worked out for the best. I ended up getting a ruling in my favor on a grievance that went all the way to the commisioner, ensuring that the director would not be able to prevent church services in the Unit, and feel good about standing by my principles even though it probably caused me to serve another year and a half to flatten out. Now I don't have anyone to report to and can just concentrate on putting my life back together, plus I was able to spend my first two weeks out of state (something no PO would have allowed) visiting my family in Denver.

I would tell him to hang in there if possible though, I know the Parole Board puts a lot of stock in these programs, it is such a shame they don't do a better job considering all the federal grant money they are eating up. I know from experience that most of the inmates in the program at WTSP have no interest at all in making a change, but for those few that do, they should try to have a better program. I know for me personally, the AA meetings they have on Friday nights did a lot more for my sobriety than anything in the program, and ironically, the board doesn't give any real creedence to AA attendance.
Dear Rob my husband is in the same prison you were, I am happy for you being out. I have alot of questions for you if you would answer them I would greatly appreciate it. He is in site 2 and I need to know the things he isn't telling me. Like going to church and school. He won't even talk about his cell mate so I wonder what he is hiding from me?

rooster123
05-15-2010, 07:16 AM
My husband has been there for 8 mths and he has to send you a visiting app and I beleive it has to be 30 days before he can have visits
Hello, I need to talk to someone that has family in WTSP My husband has been in there at site 2 for 8 months and we are going to have our first visit in 2 weeks but I have alot of questions that he will not answer before I see him. Please contact me on this site. Thank you any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

mermaidssh
08-18-2010, 07:57 PM
My husband is at WTSP. What would you like to know?
Anything you can tell me. My son was transferred last nite and I am about to go crazy. The county jail wouldn't even tell me where he was. I don't know if he is in classification or not. Thought I would try to call tomorrow and see what I can find out. Dont know how long til he can call or that we can visit. We were told that he would be going to Mountain City which would be a lot closer. Heard lots of stories about how much rougher the prisons are in west tn...ugh. Thanks for any help.

mermaidssh
08-19-2010, 09:49 PM
my son was just trasferred to WTSP. Anything you can tell me would be appreciated. I am freaking out.

NotherWife2
08-20-2010, 12:18 AM
my son was just trasferred to WTSP. Anything you can tell me would be appreciated. I am freaking out.
First off, I can tell you that your son being in Classification- it will be a lil while before he can contact you.
Second, it depends on his sentence, color of his skin, his educational background as to where he will be serving his time.
Third, TDOC will make sure that he does not have any kind of an easy time, will make sure that HIS getting HIMSELF out the this horrid situation is as difficult as possible.
DOC's want to keep as many people locked up as possible so that they can get money from the FEDS to keep them. It is a money game, NOTHING about PEOPLE as INDIVIDUALS.
West TN is sooooo POOOOOOOR and soooo beyond IGNORANT (they only know what they have been taught by their educators and peers - who are not the best ones to have as peers, cuz they are just as if not more ignorant than the next-they will do what the MASTER (Feds/Masons) wants so that they can continue to receive TAXPAYERS money to keep the ignorant/less educated ones down.
Just about everyone at WTSP is soooo not there to help, but to entice "Un Acceptable and Social Misbehavior", this I know, I SAW it, every which way possible. But that is so very true of all of TDOC or anyother DOC in the Divided States of America. There is NO "LOVE" in TN or the "United States of America" at all anymore. There is NO doing right for ones self and their neighbors. The biggest CRIMINALS are the Government as they are the ones who want what they want their way THEY want it for their own selves, NOT ONE BIT about what is right for the PEOPLE who just are trying to LIVE until they die and MAYBE make a difference in someone else's life FOR the good of the next generation.

mrschrisfore
08-20-2010, 03:44 PM
hi your son will be in class for about 30 days , he can call it took my fiance 2 days he just had to wait on his pin number i have known lots of people in wtsp visited there many time my ex husband was there as well it is not a bad place after hes classed he will stay there or be shipped out they will tell him where he is going first just not the day hes going want to know more ask me or pm me I could probley tell you anything you want to know been doing this for years

nluman
08-26-2010, 03:29 PM
hi your son will be in class for about 30 days , he can call it took my fiance 2 days he just had to wait on his pin number i have known lots of people in wtsp visited there many time my ex husband was there as well it is not a bad place after hes classed he will stay there or be shipped out they will tell him where he is going first just not the day hes going want to know more ask me or pm me I could probley tell you anything you want to know been doing this for years
Hey, my son was just transferred to WTSP the other day and I'm assuming he is in classification. I know he will call as soon as he can and I'm very anxious to talk with him. I read in another post that I should probably go ahead and fill out a visitation form since it usually takes 3-4 weeks to get approved. I know he may not be kept at WTSP after class though. So, should I go ahead and fill out the form and mail it in? The post I read it from was from '09 I think, so I wasn't sure if things have changed or not. So you know how things are for them during class? Like, are they stuck inside all day? Kept away form the general population? Stay in their "pod" for meals, etc? Any info is appreciated.
Thank you,
Nikki

Fancy
08-26-2010, 08:29 PM
I would fill it out.

Even if he is moved the visitation approval list is logged into the computer.

So, when and if he moves the new facility will most likely see it on the computer.

nluman
08-27-2010, 03:02 PM
Thank you so much TennWife! I mailed it off today. Just found out that the GTL acocunt I have won't work for TDOC. It is for my cell and it is supposed to be for a land line to receive calls from TDOC. I disconnected my land line a few weeks ago b/c we never used it!!! Now I have to wait until next wednesday to get it set back up. This is all such a headache...He is supposed to be up for parole in Nov/Dec time frame so I hope we won't have to deal with it much longer. Anyway, thanks again for your help.

mamalynz
10-14-2010, 03:21 AM
First of all congrats on getting out of there!!!! I know you must be sooooo happy lol. Okay so my best friend was just taken there and he is on the inmate transport system or something like that. He is in federal custody so I can't get any info except for where he is which is WTSP. They took him from here and transported him there then next he will be transported to another facility. What I am wondering is do you know anything about what happens to the inmates on the transport system? Can they make phone calls or have visitors?? He isn't supposed to be there long like probably a few days but I have no info whatsoever. Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated.

JTJwife
10-14-2010, 08:25 PM
Is your friend being transported from one facility to another?

Tims Wife

superdreamATM
10-15-2010, 08:10 AM
First of all congrats on getting out of there!!!! I know you must be sooooo happy lol. Okay so my best friend was just taken there and he is on the inmate transport system or something like that. He is in federal custody so I can't get any info except for where he is which is WTSP. They took him from here and transported him there then next he will be transported to another facility. What I am wondering is do you know anything about what happens to the inmates on the transport system? Can they make phone calls or have visitors?? He isn't supposed to be there long like probably a few days but I have no info whatsoever. Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated.


The rule is that transient (ie, en route to another facility) inmates cannot have visitors unless they are still at the same facility for more than 2 weeks (i think its 2). As for phone calls, seems to depend on the facility. I know some ladies who didn't call calls while their loved ones were transient, but my hubby made calls to me while he spent a few days moving through the state to get to court.

fauxgirl
11-07-2010, 08:14 AM
this info was so helpful to me and sent it to my son at west-he appreciated the heads up. i think we have an unusual situation there. he is lost in the computer and they can't complete his classification-weird huh? he used to show up on the tenn. vinelink site and one day it just said no offender. i assumed he was being transfered but in his next letter told me about this glitch of disappearance. he is convinced God has a hand in this. he was very involved in a ministry/ recovery program for the year and half before his sentencing and knows God will be faithful. have you ever heard of this kind of thing? again thank you and pray for your life of freedom!

JTJwife
11-07-2010, 12:07 PM
It seems to me that if he is not in the system they should let him go. But, who knows if that means it will happen. Good luck!

Tims Wife

emotipe06
02-07-2011, 03:31 PM
Congratulations!!!! What is the crime like in there? How do I find out why my man got put in Max security?





Hi all, I thought I'd drop in and say hi. I just got released from WTSP on Dec 23rd, so I can prob answer any questions about that place, just ask. I AM SO GLAD TO BE OUT!

Rob

emotipe06
02-07-2011, 03:33 PM
How do I get info about my man in WTSP? How do I find out why he was put in Max security? His write up's?

NotherWife2
02-07-2011, 05:41 PM
How do I get info about my man in WTSP? How do I find out why he was put in Max security? His write up's?

Sorry, but the only way is what he tells you... His counselor MIGHT tell you if you are his legal wife, if not - no one will tell you anything. Sorry you are going through this. Keep yourself grounded in your love with him and be more patient than patience is defined.

NotherWife2
02-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Congratulations!!!! What is the crime like in there? How do I find out why my man got put in Max security?

Use your imagination, and it is bigger than that!! and you can only MAYBE find out if you are his Legal wife (responded on your other thread)..

emotipe06
02-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Thank you!!! I am new to this situation and trying to stay strong. He is in Max now and its hard...

JenNJason
04-11-2011, 02:10 PM
Hi guys, I just found out this morning that my fiance has made it all the way to WTSP. I live in upper E. TN, so this, well it just sucks. I haven't the means to travel to see him, even if I could get a special visit. He was in a county jail, for 15mths, moved on 4/6/11 to Charles Bass and then FOIL showed him this morning at WTSP, for the first time this morning and I was checking everyday. Of course he is in class now, so I am not too worried. I sure do miss him, phone and visit. He was scheduled for a parole hearing on 4/13. I wonder what the odds are of him still having that hearing since he is in classification now? I am trying to figure out this classification stuff. Kinda confusing. I have seen the point sheets they use and as far as I can tell he only has 3 points. Nothing violent while in custody. Their time is strange. As I have been told they surely must be using a magic 8 ball! Jason has a 1yr and a 2yrs at 30% and then 6yrs at 35%. He got auto kick out on the 1yr. Should get the same on the 2yrs soon. All sentences are concurrent to each other. The first 244 days of the 15mths were on a probation violation, which is flat and not included in the 9 yrs. FOIL says the following: Sentence begin date: 9/18/2009. Parole eligiabilty: 11/02/2010. Parole hearing: 4/13/2011. Sentence end: 09/10/2017. He got some 2-4-1 while in county. Not sure how much and I don't have a more recent TOMIS. Wow, it's even more overwhelming when it's all typed out like this. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

NotherWife2
04-11-2011, 05:56 PM
OK, He is now in Classification, this will take several weeks. You can get phone calls and letters. I didn't have a chance to tell you how to put money on his books for commissary. Send HIM a POSTAL money order and they will put it on his books -- put his name and his TDOC number on it. There is no way to do it electronically or Western Union, ONLY US POSTAL Money order. Don't get a phone number for where he is right now, wait until his Classification is done. HE will let you know what's up. He will be able to get packages and I will get that info. to you later on. They can be done online, but only when it is his month and a Christmas "bonus" package unlike the others. Be STRONG you are going to learn the ABSOLUTE definition of "Patience" during this journey. We are here to help you in whatever way we can... :thumbsup:

JenNJason
05-06-2011, 07:13 AM
Hi all. I hope you all made it through these horrible storms ok. Jason had been classed to Hardeman County but instead got moved to another unit at WTSP. I can't recall which unit right now. All of the folks he came from County with have already been moved and we feel he will be staying there considering these things. He seems to be doing really well and is looking forward to any type of job and routine. He is enjoying the food a lot more than he did county. Says he is getting fat ;) He doesn't do a great job of explaining some things to me but he got some paper work from someone (?) and that it said he has a possible release date in four months. I'm not getting to excited about this of course. I do have a question if anyone might be able to help I would appreciate it. One of his charges was delivery of schedule 2 narcotics. He came from county with several people, none of whom had drug charges but him. They were all told to do a drug program. He was only told he needed to do life skills. I have no idea why he didn't get told to do a drug program but I have a feeling when he goes in front of the board they will see that charge and tell him he has to do a drug program first. He says they don't have the drug program he thinks he needs and that the board will except. I dont really believe that to be honest. Please correct me if I am wrong. He says he can't get access to the life skills program they told him to take. How are they suppose to ever get parole if they are told to take things not offered at their prison? Is there anyway to get him into some kind of drug program that will make a difference with this parole? I dont want to wait a year for a parole hearing just to have them tell us he must do a drug program and to come back in another year. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys. Praying for you all

Fancy
05-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Going thru the same thing. Happens all the time in TN. The board recommends a class they want the inmate to take then doe not make the classes available.

Then at the next parole hearing, you gotta hear "why did n't you take the classes we recommended?"

Sux....

Jen, I worried about you, please contact me.

JenNJason
05-06-2011, 09:32 PM
Fancy is there any way to get him into a drug program? I just know that if he dont have a drug class they will turn him down, even though his counselor didnt recommend it. At least I think they will insist on a program because he does have a charge. I dont know what to tell him to do about the life skills thing. He is not as outspoken as I am and I dont see him pitching a fit on his counselor. I not sure what to tell him to try. I just want him home and if he gets turned down because they didnt put him where he needs to be I am not going to be a happy camper...This stuff is so complicated and confusing. It makes me tired!

NotherWife2
05-06-2011, 11:00 PM
Fancy is there any way to get him into a drug program? I just know that if he dont have a drug class they will turn him down, even though his counselor didnt recommend it. At least I think they will insist on a program because he does have a charge. I dont know what to tell him to do about the life skills thing. He is not as outspoken as I am and I dont see him pitching a fit on his counselor. I not sure what to tell him to try. I just want him home and if he gets turned down because they didnt put him where he needs to be I am not going to be a happy camper...This stuff is so complicated and confusing. It makes me tired!
All he can do is request it via his counselor and remember there are many more who have been there longer who are trying the same route.

Fancy
05-07-2011, 06:43 AM
I agree...this is a common situation in TN. And the counselors are usually very ineffective no matter if you are sweet or ugly.

Here is the deal, a lot of the classes now are not VOLUNTARILY....In other words, any old inmate can not walk up and say "hey, I wanna be in that class". Does not happen like that anymore for some classes.

The classes are parole board recommended and your loved one's name come out on a list from Nashville and that is how they get into some classes.

As everyone knows by now, hubby got a yr put off at parole board. They recommended the NECX Therapeutic community. Well, so, the list from Nashville comes out this week....these are to be the inmates to go in the program....and guess who is not on the list?

You guessed it...hubby. So, the board tells him to take the classes then refuses to put in the classes....????

Happens all the time here in TN.

There is no reason to anything.....at all.

You can fuss to the counselor and you might as well be fussing with the wall.

Sorry, this is my experience...and I hope it is not yours!

JenNJason
05-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Thanks guys. I wish Jason would speak up and be more vocal because he knows how this is most likely to go. We have serval friends in diff TN prisons and one who has been dealing with this kind of stuff for about 17 yrs. I wish he would understand he needs to be more proactive or he is going to be in the same boat for sure.

MommaJordan
05-10-2011, 11:56 PM
I am very new to the prison system and am so confused and scared right now. My fiance was just sent to WTSP to serve a 5 year sentence at 30%. Based on what I am reading, I will not be able to visit him unless we are married because I have a felony. I am on probation for 3 years. This breaks my heart. All I want is to see my fiance. Does anyone know how to go about getting married while he is incarcerated? At least if we are legally married, I may have a better chance of getting approved for visitation. This is so frustrating. Please help me!!!!!!:cry:

JenNJason
05-17-2011, 09:53 AM
Hi MommaJordan,
Based on everything I have read it's going to be very hard for you to get a visit OR get married. My man has been at WTSP about a month and I haven't got to visit yet. I have had prior convictions myself but thank God they were not felonies! It seems impossible to deal with TDOC if you are a felon. I would suggest that he get a marriage packet as quickly as possible. It is our intention to marry asap. I kick myself everyday for not doing it before but life kinda go in our way. From what I read it is an episode to get married in prison. Finding a preacher seems to be the hardest part of it all. I think I know one who will make the trip with me once everything is in place. I'm not sure though and I am almost afraid to ask. I get so tired of hearing "no". I'm not sure what the rules are for being a felon yourself and trying to marry an inmate. I will try to find some info for you. I do think the ball is in your man's court. I think the first step will be for him to get started on that packet right away. I wish you blessings, I don't much believe in luck anymore. Wish I could have been of some real help.

KelsD
07-25-2011, 12:06 PM
Good Afternoon,
I am Kels and I reside in Memphis Tn.. My fiance is in WTSP he has 9 years remaining on his sentence. We met while he was in jail. I have a question, what is the chance of getting out early when you are charged with a class A felony in TEnn?:(

Fancy
07-25-2011, 08:30 PM
When is his parole hearing or his RED date?

Everyone here in TN has a decent chance at parole after their RED date....

ForeverNAlways
08-31-2011, 06:50 AM
Does anybody know how the good time works cause my husband got 10 yrs at 30% and I was wondering how soon he could get release any help will be grately appericated

KRICE
12-04-2011, 09:10 PM
Hi rob. can u tell me what is the major city close to this prison, Im coming from MIchigan to visit someone, thank K rice
Hi all, I thought I'd drop in and say hi. I just got released from WTSP on Dec 23rd, so I can prob answer any questions about that place, just ask. I AM SO GLAD TO BE OUT!

Rob

NotherWife2
12-04-2011, 09:20 PM
Hi rob. can u tell me what is the major city close to this prison, Im coming from MIchigan to visit someone, thank K rice
The closest city is Memphis which is about 50+ miles away, the town closest is Ripley. Best wishes with visit!!

myson'smom
07-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Hi all, I thought I'd drop in and say hi. I just got released from WTSP on Dec 23rd, so I can prob answer any questions about that place, just ask. I AM SO GLAD TO BE OUT!

Rob
Hey, Rob.....what do you know about PC inmates being housed in the hole because of lack of space, and then they are put in chains and shackles for non-contact visits?

jordans wifey
07-08-2012, 06:55 AM
Hi everyone I'm Lynnsie n my hubby is in silverdale in Chattanooga, does anyone know about silverdale he is getting out September 7th they recently moved him to a new dorm he now works in the kitchen so does that work towards his sentence or is it money on comensary??

ladyred
08-21-2012, 08:08 AM
I'm waiting to visit a fella with 3 life sentences without parole. Will he be allowed contact visits? How long does it take to get accepted? Thanks for any help.

heartbrokenmom1
10-01-2012, 08:36 PM
My son was just moved to WTSP and I have no idea about anything
Can I send him stamps?
How do I go about putting money on his books for commissary?
What about the phone? Who do I call to put money on the system?
How long is classification?
How long will it be before he can call or have a visit?
How long are the visits during classification?
Any other info would be greatly appreciated.

InFL
10-06-2012, 09:38 AM
Rob the Great posted:
If he stays there, WTSP is broken up into 3 "Sites" although they are all right together. Site 1 was actually the old Fort
Pillow Prison across the street, that is now empty. The MSC Unit (also called the Annex) is next door to the old prison and
is also sometimes referred to as Site 1, although it is actually part of Site 2 for admin purposes.
My Question:
My nephew's address changed on the Union Direct website to Site 2. He just finished classification (and has already been assigned a job). I cannot find any website from WTSP that provides the classification information. Is this what Rob the Great was talking about? Could the annex/msc be considered Site 2 on the Union Direct website? I am a bit confused on this. Thank you for any help with this.

Random79
10-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Heartbrokenmom,

My loved one was sent to WTSP for classification as well in March of this year. If I remember correctly classification took about 4 weeks in his case. At that time he was then transferred to NWCX. When he was there in March they were only sending inmates to NWCX and Whiteville, but I do not know what the case is now.

As far as the phone goes, it is with global tel link. If he already had your number listed on his call list when he was in county, it should still be on his list, in which case you can wait for him to call you and the automated message will allow you to deposit money with your credit card. By now since your post was over a week ago I imagine you may have heard from him by now? I think mine actually managed to call me the same day he arrived, however,phone calls were few and far between when he was in classification, as there are only 5-6 phones in each pod and something like 150 inmates racing to the phone. If your cell is on an upper floor, good luck making it there in time. I did not attempt to mail in any stamps when mine was in classification, but I send him stamps at NWCX so I see no reason why you coudln't. I always write on the front page that stamps are enclosed and the value, just incase anyone tries to steal them. If your son has stamps however, I would consider waiting until he is moved to send him more, becasue if he is moved before your mail reaches him you risk TDOC losing his mail. In theory it is supposed to be forwarded to him, but I am not sure how much faith I have in that (although mine moved before he got one of my letters and it DID reach him weeks later).

I live too far away to have made any visits, so I am not sure about that. I also do not know how to go about putting money on commisary. I would assume you would need to make out a money order in his name with his ID on it, however I would call the prison to inquire. Again, if he has enough money to make it by right now, I would consider waiting until he is moved. Also, having too much "money" in classification can lead to people attempting to steal, my loved one learned that quickly.

Once he is classified, they will move him to his new prison. Depending on crowding issues, this may mean that even if he has a low classification he could end up in medium security for a few months or longer, waiting to be moved to an annex or other low security unit. I hope some of this information has been useful. Good luck to you and your son.

In FL I hope someone can answer your question. I do not know anything about the different sites. At worst, call the prison and ask or write a letter to your nephew?

slbjdb258
12-26-2012, 04:28 PM
I am traveling from Chattanooga to WTSP and just wondering if anyone woud like to share the ride and motel to help out with expenses.

mrs.allen37
06-19-2013, 11:44 AM
do anyone know if wtsp is on lockdown

rosfriend
06-20-2013, 08:12 PM
Aren't all the prisons on Jpay now?

watsonsbaby
09-01-2013, 02:24 PM
My man went in july 6 i need real answers. in aug. he had a hearing. then when will we know anything. Any response will be greatly appericated.