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dreamrdr
10-19-2003, 11:19 AM
Hello Friends, I have a question??? Has anyone heard about salt peter>>??? It is something they put in food or drink they feed the prisoners. I have heard it slows down the mens sex drive. And what are the side effects>?? And is it harmful to them.? If anyone has any info on this chemical I would be so grateful. Thank each and eveyone who reads or replies to my question. Thanks again, dreamrdr :confused:

softheart
10-19-2003, 11:25 AM
Salt peter is composed of potassium nitrate and sulfur. It is a powder or can come in chunks. Salt peter was used on soldiers to prevent erections. It was put in food and can last 12-24 hours depending on the person.

I hope this helps answer your question.

softie

toi_ama
10-19-2003, 11:35 AM
They don't give it to people in prison, although the rumor runs rampant, I know. Guys who hear the rumor and believe they're being given it worry that it will make them impotent long term. It may have been used many years ago, but to my knowledge isn't used now. In fact, I vaguely remember having read somewhere that they can't do things like that to a prisoner without letting them know, but I'm not positive. I'm sure you'll get more feedback on this.

Bethie_Boo
10-19-2003, 11:48 AM
that wouldn't stop my husband lol

TNC
10-19-2003, 11:49 AM
I worked in pharmcy for years and know a old lady who used to come in and get it for her husbands cereal. She thought he was having an affair. Anyway it's not carried in most pharmacy's, but they can order it. I would call your local pharmacy. Talking to an older pharmacist who has been around longer may give you more info.

mrsdragoness
10-19-2003, 12:30 PM
This has come up before in discussions... saltpeter was used in prisons at one time, but the practice was stopped and actually outlawed.

mrs. d

FriscoLady
10-19-2003, 12:43 PM
Have to laugh, the same rumor is rampant in the military as well. Probably has been since the beginning of time!

Has not been used for a very, very long time, in either case.

Patti

Bethie_Boo
10-19-2003, 12:49 PM
:)

Marci
10-20-2003, 10:33 PM
Prisons cannot just put drugs in inmates food - it's against the law. I do remember when they did do it, the inmates signed forms understadning that this was put in their food (my friend husband locked up for 18 yrs in CMC in CA). I truly as used, as a way to lower sexual drive - but it's against the law to just put drugs in anyone food.

Now, if an inmate requests it, I'm not sure how that is handled. I know my husband would like some right now - that's for sure!

CET
10-20-2003, 11:39 PM
tnc, that is too funny!

spyda
10-23-2003, 05:55 PM
Haha! The military is much like prison, during boot camp men used to swear up and down that they were drugged with salt peter. And much like prison this is only a rumor.

danielle
10-23-2003, 06:01 PM
This rumor is still making rounds?? :)

Retired-101
01-03-2004, 01:58 PM
It would be near impossible to use even if you could. Keep in mind in prisons the inmates are the ones who prepare the meals, from the time it comes off the trucks to storage to cooking. In many cases the food is grown on other prisons. I have not been in any camp that uses that stuff, and I worked in a few kitchens in NC.

a.lil.love
01-06-2004, 12:12 AM
Ha. I already knew that this stuff wasn't used anymore and figured it was illegal, but the funniest thing.. I have always thought it was called SOFT PETER!!! Maybe it should be, it makes more sense!!

Kandee
01-09-2004, 07:49 AM
How would they know what they are putting in there food? I know that there are inmates that work in the kitchen but whose to say that they want change the label on the bottle.

Retired-101
01-09-2004, 08:26 AM
I agree that it might be possible to change a label on a bottle to mislead inmates, but to do that requires a plan that only the federal government would have to initiate. Seriously, I do not see that as a possibility at all. Using salt peter is about as much a rumor as the 65% sentencing rule coming back. I worked at Tyrrell Prison Work Farm, Sanford Correctional and Lumberton Correctional, and I have to say a lot of the products inmates use in cooking are the same that you can buy off the shelves, except in larger sizes. Granted a lot of products are also grown on other prison camps, but from beginning to end inmates have a lot to do with it. If we look at this, we might see 3 different stages; production of the product, packaging (which includes labeling) of the product, and delivery of the product to the prison. I think we can rule out the third stage as far as any salt peter tampering. I think we can also rule out the first; there are prisons that do indeed grow certain foods for the state prison system, but because inmates move around in the state, it would be impossible for inmates not to know that something was added to their food. This leaves the second state, the packaging of the products. If this was done by an independent company, not affiliated with the prison system, there might be a chance, but to do this, and keep in mind this may be an extreme, you need to find out what the shelf life is of salt peter. When is it best effective? Do you add it before cooking, or after? How much? There are just too many questions, just to satisfy the idea that maybe someone is putting that in the inmate's food. I'd like to find out some info on salt peter, to see if that is possible, and if so, what are the conditions. But I'd bet money that there is less than 1% chance of any of that happening in prisons in NC.

Retired-101
01-09-2004, 08:58 AM
Hi again, I looked up some stuff on salt peter, and generically speaking, this is what I have come up with:
As someone else had mentioned, salt peter is Potassium Nitrate and has been used with salt in pickling and keeping meat. It can cause a relaxation of involuntary muscle fibers, for which it was used by people with asthma. However, this was back in the 18th century, when doctors did not know nearly as much as they do now. From the several sites I visited, there seems to be two conclusive things about salt peter, one, it is indeed a wide rumor, that dates back to the World Wars of I and II, and anywhere there is a community of males, from prisons to the military.
The second idea is the fact that salt peter is DANGEROUS! Use of this product in foods, in large amounts or even small amounts can cause violent stomachaches, high blood pressure, anemia, kidney disease, general weakness and even death.
To put this in perspective, look at the next to last condition; general weakness. If you consider that most prisons believe that inmates should be worked, rather than spend all day in a cell or dorm, then you really have to wonder how effective salt peter really is if it was used. Think about this; if inmates ate food with salt peter everyday, or even a few days a week, depending on what was eaten, how could DOC expect these guys to work on road squads, or any other prison job, if the LEAST they had was general weakness? It defeates the entire purpose of putting these guys to work, if they can't work. It seems to make it very clear that the salt peter idea cannot possibly be true, but overall, people will believe whatever they want.

AngelFaceAlbion
01-09-2004, 11:46 PM
well..i know they give it to them in Erie County cuz the guard told my fiance..then when he came home and we were..uh..um..ya know,heh..he said it hurt like nothings he's everfelt before..but that was just the first time after gettin out of jail..the rest of the times he was fine..it must take a while to get outa their system.


Angel

Retired-101
01-10-2004, 07:16 PM
I understand the logic of the last statement, but there are a few holes in that theory. First, don't believe what a guard tells you; they know nothing more than anyone else. Some of the worst rumors come from guards that knew nothing about the situation. If he is telling you the truth, find out the details; don't just assume that because he said it, it was true.
Second, just because there may have been..difficulties with your partner, that may not have anything to do with any additive. Remember how long he has been without sex; is it possible that and the stress of the time had anything to do with it. I firmly believe that the salt peter idea has no value or truth.
It should be also noted that if the strongest case of salt peter in prisons is the effect to keep inmates from certain feelings (you know, since I'm trying to keep it clean), then the salt peter idea is still defeated. Ask inmates about how many know of inmates taking porno magazines to the bathroom late at night, or how valuable pornographic magazines are in prison (one reason they are ruled illegal in most prisons). If salt peter was anywhere near as effective, the need and want for such magazines would be much less than it is.