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miamac 08-08-2018 12:50 PM

CDCR List of Banned Books, 2018
 
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If you plan to send your loved one a guide on drawing, might want to check this list first. Also, what do they have against the Nahautl language? :hmm:

ALWAYS HERE 4 M 08-08-2018 02:07 PM

From what I have heard gangs were using the Nahautl language to facilitate gang activity.

miamac 08-08-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ALWAYS HERE 4 M (Post 7738186)
From what I have heard gangs were using the Nahautl language to facilitate gang activity.

Over a million people speak Nahuatl in our neighboring country, a lot of "Spanish" words are, or are derived from, Nahuatl. Maybe staff need to start brushing up on their foreign language skills. lol

Ahhh, I know I know. One bad apples ruins the bunch, right? :)

safran 08-08-2018 04:12 PM

I am an avid reader and don't generally favor banning books, but many of those titles seem at least 1/2 reasonable when it comes to keeping them out of prisons.

Years ago I read the banned book list of Texas DoC and now not only do I plan to never commit a crime in Texas I am not even sure if I want drive through Texas to get someplace else!

1/2 my favorite mystery authors were banned.

Minor activist 08-08-2018 04:57 PM

Dante's Inferno.
Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Yes, a lot of the bans did make sense, but come on.

miamac 08-08-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by safran (Post 7738211)
I am an avid reader and don't generally favor banning books, but many of those titles seem at least 1/2 reasonable when it comes to keeping them out of prisons.

Definitely! Most seemed common sense (gang, crime, survival and fighting skills), though it made me sad to see so many related to classical art. I'm sure it's nudity, which is kind of sad, but it's not something that can be subjective. If you allow Titian's Venus of Urbino, you can't then turn around and say no to a May issue of "Full Cups". :giggle:

Actually, what caught my eye was Mandela's A Prisoner in the Garden. I haven't read it but I know it's highly acclaimed and held as one of the most universal books on humanity and perseverance of the soul. Take Game of Thrones, fine. But Nelson Mandela?

gvalliant 08-08-2018 08:33 PM

It's good to have this list so I know what CDCR will reject. Interesting, I've gotten all the Game of Thrones books to my son. I guess no more. He's been waiting patiently for the next volume which is more than a year overdue.

Apparently they have been screened out in accordance with CCR Section 3134.1 of Title 15. Terrific. Probably represents 0.00000001% of books written over time. What do they do - hire a bunch of people to sit around reading books all day to see if they can find something that violate their rules? It is inconceivable that they could ever even possibly tickle the universe of books that could be sent which are in violation.

Whatever turns their crank. I think it is absurd and a waste of time and resources.

miamac 08-08-2018 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gvalliant (Post 7738269)
What do they do - hire a bunch of people to sit around reading books all day to see if they can find something that violate their rules? It is inconceivable that they could ever even possibly tickle the universe of books that could be sent which are in violation.

I wondered that, too. I can see how obvious screening occurs-- flip through for nudity or violent images, check the subject matter. But to sit down and read a book and note the pages that are the reason for the ban? Who's job is this?

ALWAYS HERE 4 M 08-09-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by miamac (Post 7738195)
Over a million people speak Nahuatl in our neighboring country, a lot of "Spanish" words are, or are derived from, Nahuatl. Maybe staff need to start brushing up on their foreign language skills. lol

Ahhh, I know I know. One bad apples ruins the bunch, right? :)

Agreed! And yup thats what they say! ;)

qwerty 08-09-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miamac (Post 7738183)
If you plan to send your loved one a guide on drawing, might want to check this list first.

Where does this document come from?

Fridyrr.Likn 08-09-2018 03:23 PM

What a long and bizarre list. Who would know there's that many people in prison interested in FAERIES/FAIRIES....

Anyway, much of the list isn't surprising but there's a lot I'm surprised ISN'T on there that IS banned in AZ....Might Is Right, Mein Kampf, there's only one of George Lincoln Rockwell books there, they are worried about Nahautl but not about any other foreign language? So weird how they decide such things.

Dakini 08-09-2018 03:46 PM

Be Here Now by Ram Daas?
One would think they’d want a little more Zen on the inside.

Fridyrr.Likn 08-09-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakini (Post 7738422)
Be Here Now by Ram Daas?
One would think they’d want a little more Zen on the inside.

There were several books I saw that seemed like they would be GOOD for inmates to read. Gods forbid they be enlightened or learn something...

miamac 08-09-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty (Post 7738399)
Where does this document come from?

I got it from an IFC page, but when I went back to link to it, the link is broken. :hmm: It said it was updated August 3, 2018. If I find another link, I'll post it.

FML 08-09-2018 06:17 PM

Is there a list like this for federal prison?

Minor activist 08-09-2018 06:56 PM

No, but I found this when I went to look for it. It’s a list of other states’s rules, so I’ll post it here and in the general mail sub-forum, and let the moderators decide which to delete.
http://www.bookstoprisoners.net/banned-book-lists/
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Arizona
In 2015, the ACLU obtained documents from the Arizona prison system that detailed hundreds of publication reviews. Some of their findings are collected*here. Books that have been banned include atlases, books on drawing, and mythology books.
Take this fun quiz*to find out a few of the books that Arizona has banned over the year.

Connecticut
A copy of Connecticut’s banned books list from 2013 can be read*here. Bans include individual issues of*The*New Yorker, Adbusters,*and*Prison Legal News. She’s Come Undone –*a book selected for Oprah’s Book Club – was initially banned before media attention reversed the decision

North Carolina
Received from a prisoner, we have a scanned copy of the banned books list for the state of*North Carolina*(updated in 2015). Read it*here. Some highlights include:
591 banned titles
22 banned publishers
Banned titles like*The New Jim Crow*(Michelle Alexander),*The Art of War*(Sun Tzu), and all dictionaries.

Pennsylvania
The complete banned books list for Pennsylvania can be read*here. It is updated quarterly.
All Dungeons & Dragons and Pathfinder RPG manuals are denied (reason: “writings which advocate violence, insurrection, or guerrilla warfare against the government or any of its facilities or which create a danger within the context of the correctional facility”)
Magic: The Gathering, Rifts: Book of Magic, Warhammer 40K, and World of Warcraft materials are also banned.

Texas
Read the report on banned books in Texas, compiled by the Texas Civil Rights Project,*here. 11,851 titles were banned in Texas by 2012. Newer sources suggest that the list may have exceeded 15,000 titles by 2016. Bans include figure drawing books, John Grisham novels, and books about the history of the Civil Rights Movement. Materials that have been banned for containing “codes” include books on Wicca.

Virginia
Read a partial list of banned books in Virginia from 2001, as reported by the Schilling Show,*here. Banned authors include Louis L’Amour, James Patterson, and John Grisham. As of 2015, Virginia still maintains a banned books list for use at all facilities. No copy has been made available online, but guidelines for inclusion can be found*here.

Washington state
A frequently updated pdf of restricted publication can be found on the WA DOC site,*here. It notably includes nonfiction books such as*Trans Bodies, Trans Selves*and*The Dark Net.




miamac 08-09-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Minor activist (Post 7738451)
No, but I found this when I went to look for it. It’s a list of other states’s rules, so I’ll post it here and in the general mail sub-forum, and let the moderators decide which to delete.
http://www.bookstoprisoners.net/banned-book-lists/


Ugghhh, why is The New Jim Crow on ANY list of banned books? I mean, I can guess the answer, but holy hell...
Oppression through deprivation is-- I just can't believe how low we continue to sink. :sad&blue:

Minor activist 08-09-2018 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miamac (Post 7738455)
Ugghhh, why is The New Jim Crow on ANY list of banned books? I mean, I can guess the answer, but holy hell...
Oppression through deprivation is-- I just can't believe how low we continue to sink. :sad&blue:

Like North Carolina banning dictionaries, and Kentucky Correctional Institution for Women making tutoring sessions a disciplinary infraction.

FML 08-10-2018 03:04 AM

Besides all the sexual stuff, there's some pretty good books in there. I had 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson on my list already, hopefully Sheridan will let me have it. Here's a list of books I picked out on Amazon and gonna give to my family members in case they feel like sending me something:

Emotional Intelligence 2.0
by Travis Bradberry

The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
by Eckhart Tolle

Man's Search for Meaning
by Viktor E. Frankl, William J. Winslade

Parenting from a Distance: Your Rights and Responsibilities
by Janet D. Walker

Overcoming Emotions that Destroy: Practical Help for Those Angry Feelings That Ruin Relationships
by Chip Ingram, Becca Johnson

The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem: The Definitive Work on Self-Esteem by the Leading Pioneer in the Field
by Nathaniel Branden

The Power of Time Perception: Control the Speed of Time to Make Every Second Count (Time Life Series)
by Jean Paul Zogby

Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End
by Atul Gawande

Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ
by Daniel Goleman

David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants
by Malcolm Gladwell

The Alchemist
by Paulo Coelho

Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City
by Matthew Desmond

Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World - and Why Things Are Better Than You Think

The Gifts of Imperfection: Let Go of Who You Think You're Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are
by Brené Brown

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind
by Yuval Noah Harari

The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business
by Charles Duhigg

The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference
by Malcolm Gladwell

Mindfulness: An Eight-Week Plan for Finding Peace in a Frantic World
by Mark Williams, Danny Penman

Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking
by Malcolm Gladwell

As a Man Thinketh: 21st Century Edition (The Wisdom of James Allen)
by Sam Torode, James Allen

The Undefeated Mind: On the Science of Constructing an Indestructible Self
by Alex Lickerman

A Short History of Nearly Everything
by Bill Bryson

12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos
by Jordan B. Peterson

Crucial Conversations Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High, Second Edition
by Kerry Patterson, Joseph Grenny

The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable
by Patrick Lencioni

Outliers: The Story of Success
by Malcolm Gladwell

Principles: Life and Work
by Ray Dalio

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: Powerful Lessons in Personal Change
by Stephen R. Covey

The Personal MBA: Master the Art of Business
by Josh Kaufman

Mindset: The New Psychology of Success
by Carol S. Dweck

Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products
by Nir Eyal, Ryan Hoover

Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything
by Steven D. Levitt, Stephen J Dubner

There's a bunch of other fictional stories, puzzle books, workout training guides, and reference books in-between, but those seem niche to what I prefer and the ones above are just self-help books I thought might interest some people in helping change or strengthen themselves with all the time we'll have in there.

miamac 08-10-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FML (Post 7738492)
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho

One my favorites. The Four Agreements by Ruiz is another I would recommend.

Minor activist 08-10-2018 12:22 PM

Oh yes. Simple, difficult, powerful.

gta5518 08-10-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gvalliant (Post 7738269)
It's good to have this list so I know what CDCR will reject. Interesting, I've gotten all the Game of Thrones books to my son. I guess no more. He's been waiting patiently for the next volume which is more than a year overdue.


If I read the list correctly, it is the graphic novels specifically, not the actual novels. I read them and loved them, I am huge into Epic Fantasy series, but I gave up on waiting!

Does he read other series? My favorite is 15 gigantic books long and fully completed!

gvalliant 08-10-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gta5518 (Post 7738564)
If I read the list correctly, it is the graphic novels specifically, not the actual novels. I read them and loved them, I am huge into Epic Fantasy series, but I gave up on waiting!

Does he read other series? My favorite is 15 gigantic books long and fully completed!

Thank you for catching that subtlety. I sent the books, not the graphic novels a little over a year ago. All got through except volume 2 which was returned. Titled "A Clash of Kings". That one book title is on the excluded list. Explains why it was sent back which I could not understand when it happened. If next book in series does get released, should be OK to send.

The entire Dark Tower series sent some time ago. Anything Stephen King always works for him. Other series, but not other fantasy series - Bourne series by Ludlum and Van Lustbader, Pendergrast series by Preston and Child, Reacher series by Lincoln Child. Some self help books but mostly fiction and fun books. I don't kid myself thinking he'll spend all his time reading dry psychology books.

Reading is a good thing to burn hours in there. Other states likely have different rules, he told me CDCR only only allows him to have something like 7 or 10 books at one time. I suppose that is not such a bad rule. He has donated a lot to prison library or his buddies in other cells.

gta5518 08-10-2018 01:27 PM

I was actually curious if those books were on the list, so I looked for them specifically. They can get pretty graphic and I wasn't sure how much they allowed in.

I was sending my son's father the Wheel of Time books. He at least said he was reading them. haha. I loved them so much that I go to a convention every year devoted to that series. If you're interested, it is written by Robert Jordan. The first book is "The Eye of the World."

The author sadly died before finishing the series, but they hired a fantastic author, Brandon Sanderson, to finish that has now become one of my favorites.


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