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lovinbilly4ever · #1 09-09-2003, 10:30 PM

lol, YEAY US!! lol

i had read a thread on here, asking if they have become institutionalized, and i truly TRULY thought he was!
i had read (on here) that when one is sent to prison, it only takes a shocking 18 months before they become institutionalized....and that kinda scared me. WELL, i had asked billy if he was....and here is his response...

"you ever look up the words "conform" & "institutionalize"? they are very close. CONFORM means to: "behave by accepted standards," and the word INSTITUTIONALIZE meaning to: "accept custom, school, hospital, etc. or establishment." there is alot i miss out on by being here, but babe, ill never, EVER, become weak in mind that i become overwhelmed by my circumstances. I will believe in me always, i do see an end to where i am, i refuse to let time to me--ILL DO THE TIME...i will remain SANE & always love you...i have lots of love for you, and i believe love will keep me going...i have withstood being in ad.seg. for over 2 years, i can make it anywhere they decide to put me, that i DO know.
i have tested my mental capacity out before, and ill never end up insane, so help me God. i have "conformed" to being here--adjusted... but if i didnt, id be looney, crazy & on psych medication indeed, physically and spiritually stable...however, i am "sexually" deprived greatly!!"

well, YEAY me! lol i seriously thought that id have to have him on some kind of meds & some funky counseling once he gets out, but from looking at that AND all the other letters (over 400 of them),....i know he is perfectly fine. just wants to get the HELL OUTTA THERE!!

lol, so my question to you guys, (although it has been asked before)....are you worried they are institutionalized??

happy reading!!

-melissa

p.s. hes so sweet he FINALLY said "i consider you to be my fiancee". although he & i arent officially engaged...but its good to know thats where we are headed (although i knew it he never really said the word "fiancee" regarding ME!!)

Ms.Heather · #2 09-10-2003, 12:23 AM

melissa... where is the thread that you were talking about? You have me curious now...

Heather

lovinbilly4ever · #3 09-10-2003, 12:47 AM

crap, i cant remember where i saw it--im 99% sure it was here on pto. i will try looking for it. but i KNOW i didnt make it up! lol

Trulykath · #4 09-10-2003, 08:25 AM

the thread talked about the Road Home...and I think it's in that forum.

I don't think Skip is institutionalized...but I have already seen changes. It's the awareness of things....I asked if when he came home, did he think it will be hard? He said "no Darlin, just take the bathroom door off the hinges and invite all the neighbors over when I shower, poop, or pee...I'll feel RIGHT AT HOME!!!!"

I think they DO instill a bubble....to watch things around them, to protect themselves etc. I think it will take some time for that bubble to disappear while they get used to being free, having choices, and not constantly feeling like they have to be aware of EVERYTHING around them.

kath

LeaAnn · #5 09-10-2003, 09:25 AM

Well I'm glad that he told you that, so now you do not need to worry.

lam422 · #6 09-10-2003, 11:01 AM

i've worried about Aaron being institutionalized. we talked a little about it once. he made a joke about being afraid to step off a sidewalk when he gets out and it really made me realize that after 4+ years, there will be that bubble Kath talked about. But it will break. i asked him what he wanted to do first thing the day he leaves those gates. "i want you to take me to a field and let me walk into it and just scream my head off the loudest and longest i can; just so i know i can scream and i won't be put in the hole or reprimanded; to know i can scream because i want to." hm. something to think about regarding institutionalization.

i think he follows the rules that are there, and will get reaccustomed to not having them after a while on the outside, just like he got used to following them on the inside.

shell021001 · #7 09-10-2003, 12:13 PM

Now I can do something to help finally.....I have it here someplace, I printed it out to send to Brian, because I am worried about the same thing...hang on a sec... Oh good grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I have printed out so much stuff for Brian, that I can't find it in all the paper work. I'll post it as soon as I find it again!!! LOL

Hugs all

Michelle

:fb: :fb: :fb: :fb:
WOO HOO I FOUND IT!!!!!!! (I just love these little fireballs!!!)

here is the link.

http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/sho...threadid=24000

Ms.Heather · #8 09-10-2003, 01:30 PM

:fb: :fb: :fb:
I just wanted to join in on the fun shell!

Thanks for the link!

lovinbilly4ever · #9 09-10-2003, 03:42 PM

thanks for the link. i knew it was here somewhere, but i was 1/2 asleep when i was looking for it...which is why i couldnt find it! lol

i agree w/the bubble. i have never been w/someone that has been incarcerated before...let alone someone that has done 10 years & 8 months calendar time.

i would think that if ANYONE spent ANY time in prison, they would have adjusted...to the way one should act while in prison.

hum, i cant seem 2 concentrate right now, just woke up, so ill leave it at that. lol

but thanks again for the replies

LJsWife · #10 09-10-2003, 07:26 PM

Hello!
Well my husband has been in for 6 months now, he has 5 more months to do before he comes home. The only thing I have noticed that is different is his WALK. He has suddenly developed a cool walk......lol
I already told him he better leave that cool walk in prison....lol
When I visited him the following weekend........he was back to NORMAL.
Good luck to you all....

Esther's Sister · #11 09-10-2003, 08:38 PM

"mine" went out for the first time for a work program. (He's been in for 5 years). They let him out of the van to "go work" and he just froze. He said he heard noises he has not heard in 5 years and colors etc. He then went to a restaurant to order food and freaked out! He ASKED to go back to the van.
Jesus, thank you for all your blessings! Thank you that you came to give us life and give it abundantly!
Institution, no.... time to heal, yes.... be yea not conformed to things of this world, but be yea transformed by the renewing of your mind ( you do that by reading your Word) Blessings !

lovinbilly4ever · #12 09-10-2003, 09:35 PM

oh yeah i can relate ester's sister. billy was moved umm...gosh about 1 1/2-2 yrs ago (he had a shoulder injury..and had to get therapy on it) .ANYWAYS, i hadnt heard from him in like 3 weeks (scared the caca outta me). BUT when i did hear from him, he had told me they had moved him..anyways, that was the 1st time he had been in an automobile in about 7 yrs or so. well, he told me he was sitting in the back & he just about threw up because of the motion of the van. he said he was just so scared to be in there...but it is understandable.

which really worries me, cause i drive like a freakin' maniac! lol

(well, not really but, you know do the california stops, drive WAY WAY WAYYY too fast etc). lol

so ester when he was in the restaurant...and asked to go back to the van. did they let him? how come he had freaked out?!?!

StacysWar030 · #13 09-11-2003, 06:19 AM

Man it just goes to show what we ALL take for granted out here!!!! Institutionlized? NO!! Conformed? ABSOLUTELY!! I posted on that thread about institutionalized and said that if they didn't accept their surroundings and go by that way of life they would go nuts.......I believe most conform to it cuz that's what we humans have to do to survive!!

Stacy

Preciousrain · #14 09-11-2003, 10:20 AM

I don't worry about if D is institutionalized. I know he is strong and going through the motions to survive. He always tells me about what he plans for our future and he also tells me whats in his heart. He tells me not to take anything for granted. And he says that he is learning not to take anything, including me, for granted. No matter what--we have to give our hunnies credit. When we loose faith in them, it makes it harder for them to have faith in themselves. Never loose hope and always believe that it will turn out alright in the end.