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KarenTx · #**126** 12-17-2008, 09:03 AM

OMG wait I just thought about that !!! Does that mean my craziness is scarier than the weirdly weird crazies ??????

Never mind me I am just so glad to have my net back and be able to talk with you guys again I'm willing to post on any topic

joetnymedic · #**127** 12-17-2008, 10:42 AM

I've been on PTO for a little bit now, and I think most people on this board are up front and looking for and trying to help. Maybe in some sick way Sokie thought that if she made her story bad enough and was still trying to help people, she would be an inspiration. I've seen some crazy stuff out there on the streets when I was working and some people just have issues. I'm not trying to stick up for her by any means. I'm just saying she obviously has some issues. You know that old saying the end doesn't justify the means? That I think is the case here. While I've been through crap on both sides of the fence, I still try to help others, because that's just me and I'll never change even though I've been screwed a few times. I believe everyone for the most part has some good in them. If I can make someones life a little better in even the smallest way, then that's great. Some people have a misconception of what really makes your job as a medic or an emt great. most people only see the lights and sirens, life and death stuff. nobody sees taking mrs smith to her dialysis run 3 times a week from the nursing home as doing something good. Well, you know what, maybe mrs smiths kids just dumped her in that nursing home because they couldn't deal with the "burden" anymore. maybe they don't even visit her except for xmas anymore. Do you realize what a kind word to her or a touch to her hand can mean to her. yeah, you're not saving her life, but you're making it a bit better and that's what counts. does that make sense to everyone? One thing anyone here who has talked to me knows is i'm a straight shooter and I tell people things good and bad like it is and if i'm having an issue, i come right out and say it with no beating around the bush whether the issue is with myself or someone else. it's not meant to be offensive, just honest. i don't go beating people up either, people on this board are going through enough crap and don't need that. the only reason i put this in my post is that once you lie, you have to lie again and again and at one point, you'll forget what the original lie was and get caught. for what to feel important. It's just not worth it. As I've said before, if I can ever help anyone, just hit me up in a post or pm me. if i can help, i will. btw I just wanted to end this by saying i appreciate PTO and every member of it.

Joe

BlueEyedEllie · #**128** 12-17-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by joetnymedic

I've been on PTO for a little bit now, and I think most people on this board are up front and looking for and trying to help. Maybe in some sick way Sokie thought that if she made her story bad enough and was still trying to help people, she would be an inspiration. I've seen some crazy stuff out there on the streets when I was working and some people just have issues. I'm not trying to stick up for her by any means. I'm just saying she obviously has some issues. You know that old saying the end doesn't justify the means? That I think is the case here. While I've been through crap on both sides of the fence, I still try to help others, because that's just me and I'll never change even though I've been screwed a few times. I believe everyone for the most part has some good in them. If I can make someones life a little better in even the smallest way, then that's great. Some people have a misconception of what really makes your job as a medic or an emt great. most people only see the lights and sirens, life and death stuff. nobody sees taking mrs smith to her dialysis run 3 times a week from the nursing home as doing something good. Well, you know what, maybe mrs smiths kids just dumped her in that nursing home because they couldn't deal with the "burden" anymore. maybe they don't even visit her except for xmas anymore. Do you realize what a kind word to her or a touch to her hand can mean to her. yeah, you're not saving her life, but you're making it a bit better and that's what counts. does that make sense to everyone? One thing anyone here who has talked to me knows is i'm a straight shooter and I tell people things good and bad like it is and if i'm having an issue, i come right out and say it with no beating around the bush whether the issue is with myself or someone else. it's not meant to be offensive, just honest. i don't go beating people up either, people on this board are going through enough crap and don't need that. the only reason i put this in my post is that once you lie, you have to lie again and again and at one point, you'll forget what the original lie was and get caught. for what to feel important. It's just not worth it. As I've said before, if I can ever help anyone, just hit me up in a post or pm me. if i can help, i will. btw I just wanted to end this by saying i appreciate PTO and every member of it.

Joe

i work in a nursing home and the medics are fantastic!!!

*Lysbeth* · #**129** 12-18-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CLTBenson

Of course, the answer is not to scream "liar!" to a poster you suspect might be less than truthful, but trust your instincts! Trust them. People here are especially vulnerable to this kind of thing. Everyone here knows what it's like to experience a lack of compassion or caring from people who refuse to be sympathetic to or understanding of the trials suffered by people with a loved one in prison. We make up for that by trying to be compassionate and understanding to those we perceive as fellow victims.

Don't let this make you more cynical, and God bless you for your capacity to give love and compassion to a world that doesn't give much of it back to you in return. But trust your instincts.

Nice post, CLT.

I think it's a little tough because there is a bit of a line - you never really know when you can be sure and when not. Like you said, the answer is not to scream "LIAR!!!" even tho sometimes you immediately want to. And sometimes even those you're almost sure of might turn out to be true.

If I hadn't lived my own life and knew better and someone else told me tales of my life as if it were theirs, I sure would raise an eyebrow over a couple of things. And so many of my friends have been thru such whacked out stuff in the years I've been here, there's been plenty of times if I didn't know the person well and hadn't seen evidence for myself, I dunno if I'd have believed whatever.

But I do think you're right in a way too.... I think there are often certain circumstances where there is just SO much and it's SO over the top, it maybe shouldn't be overlooked. Still and all, it's really, really hard - I can say from having dealt with situations both false and that turned out true, time and time again - to be sure and positive. But one's instinct, if they're having an unusual feeling.... yeah, where there's smoke there's probably fire MOST of the time, I think.

CLTBenson · #**130** 12-18-2008, 09:43 PM

To a certain extent, if someone is misrepresenting herself the question "so what?" comes into play. If I had believed her all the way to the end my reaction would have been "She made the whole thing up? Wow!" and then I would have moved on. But someone else may have experienced truly heartfelt emotional pain watching her deal with what she claimed to have gone through. To suffer on her behalf and then find out it was all a lie is a terrible thing (incidentally, to me that pretty much negates the more charitable suggestions that her intent may have been to "inspire" people), but at least it's not a tangible loss. My only real concern was knowing that sometimes these frauds sucker somebody into giving money or something else that they can ill afford to give.

One Christmas all my son wanted was his first bike. I was broke and it was all I could do to get him that bike. After I paid for it I had $5 to my name. My bills were paid, I had food in my kitchen, and my son had his bike, but I was down to my last $5. I was feeling so depressed as I left the store, and then I noticed the Salvation Army guy out there ringing his bell in the cold. I thought about the people that had to rely on them, and I realized that no matter how bad it was for me these people had it so much worse, so I dropped my last $5 into that bucket.

Some con artists are so subtle their victim doesn't even realize they're being manipulated and thinks the whole thing was their own idea. I've seen how hard it is for so many people here to make ends meet. Outrageous phone bills, traveling, not having a partner's second income, etc. But the point of my Salvation Army story is that I believe people who really know what it's like to live a hard life are more likely to want to help those they believe have it even worse, and the thought of somebody like sokiegirl using them for her own selfish gratification infuriates me. I don't know that she did that, and I don't know that she even would have done that, but I know she could have done that. For that matter, I don't know that she didn't. If she did I hope something can be done about that.

santoswifeyy · #**131** 12-21-2008, 04:32 PM

This is so nuts, ive been at work since 8am this morning and its now 5:30pm... I've been reading through all of this on and off. I've done some research on "sokie" and read through her whole intro post.. this is crazy, i cant believe someone would have so much time to do this! She had so many people on her side through all that time, giving her advice and feeling her pain.. I actually felt like crying when I read that "pam" had passed then I had to stop and realize "hold on, this isnt real, remember??" It bugs me so bad that she would put so many PTO members through all of that.

I'm still new but so far every question I've had has been answered so.. THANK YOU PTO ADMIN & MEMBERS!!!

**nevaeh2morrow** · #**132** 12-22-2008, 08:43 PM

I have no clue what happened here but as one other said previously, just reading through this thread, I see a lot of beautiful people right here. Not sure I have EVER seen such a tight knit supportive family anywhere, let alone online.

canthelpbutwait · #**133** 01-08-2009, 10:52 AM

It is a sad thing what people will do in search of attention. PTO is a valuable site to those who allow it to be& it is a shame that some people get their kicks out of toying with minds of those who already have enough going on in their lives.

OsosWifey · #**134** 01-09-2009, 01:56 PM

Wow I can't believe some people are really that pathetic? Who really chooses tragedy? They should be ashamed of their selves to try and take advantage of all the good heartedness I've seen in this forums postings thus far!

lizzyd07 · #**135** 01-09-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by santoswifeyy

This is so nuts, ive been at work since 8am this morning and its now 5:30pm... I've been reading through all of this on and off. I've done some research on "sokie" and read through her whole intro post.. this is crazy, i cant believe someone would have so much time to do this! She had so many people on her side through all that time, giving her advice and feeling her pain.. I actually felt like crying when I read that "pam" had passed then I had to stop and realize "hold on, this isnt real, remember??" It bugs me so bad that she would put so many PTO members through all of that.

I'm still new but so far every question I've had has been answered so.. THANK YOU PTO ADMIN & MEMBERS!!!

You took the words rit out of my mouth...Ive been reading through all of it too.