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Old 12-06-2017, 01:47 AM
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I know I'm loading up this thread with links, but it seems like there are some gaps in knowledge and if this helps the OP or anyone else facing a similiar situation, then terrific.



I'm not sure if anyone answered your question about the ankle monitor. I tried to find something from ICE about the monitors regarding fees, but the bulk of what I could find were news articles about suits against the companies that service the monitors and the fees they charge.

The most recent I could find was from Sept. of this year and it states that the man's bail (not a felon) was set at $20,000 (10% is $2,000). He went on an ankle monitor through Libre (service company) and has to pay $420 a month to be on the monitor.

I don't know how closely that represents all bail and monitoring fees, but if that's the case-- bailing out seems like a steep price only to risk being deported anyway. :/ You can read the article here:
Immigrant Ankle Monitors: Unfair Practice or Humane Service?
My mind is just going in circles reading how much this can all cost.


But I will update what happens in Court I believe he said this Friday he goes.


Then get everybody's opinion on here, what you guys all think suggest after Judge speaks to him.


Thank You Miamac for helping me, replying with very informational posts. And everybody else too thank you all for keeping it with me always.
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Is a PD provided for ICE hearings?
I am sure they have someone who will talk to him but it's totally different then a public defender which in his case it would have to be an immigration PD and I don't believe he would be entitled to one for obvious reasons. He would be better off getting real legal advice from a immigration attorney, at this point he most likely will be deported and not much can be done to stop the process. He has a criminal history that would make him ineligible for most forms of public funds such as a free lawyer!!
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He went from San Luis Obispo CMC to Santa Maria
then to Twin Cities in Los Angeles.

Man they moved my baby far.

But so happy to hear his voice today!!

He said tomorrow they move him again to a different place.


Well that's about it.
Can't wait to be with him again one day just have to be patient.


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Its okay. At least you know WHERE he is and he is able to call.

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I am sure they have someone who will talk to him but it's totally different then a public defender which in his case it would have to be an immigration PD and I don't believe he would be entitled to one for obvious reasons. He would be better off getting real legal advice from a immigration attorney, at this point he most likely will be deported and not much can be done to stop the process. He has a criminal history that would make him ineligible for most forms of public funds such as a free lawyer!!
I *believe* the ACLU has immigration attorneys, though I'm sure they're quite busy these days & I'm not exactly sure what type immigration case they will / won't take. Might be worth a call. If nothing else, if they can't/won't take the case, they may be able to refer someone that's at least reasonably priced. Good Luck!!
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Can anybody tell me what this all means ?

Please.....

I ran into it not sure how it can help us or what really it's about. It's too late to call them right now.
I will tomorrow morning.


My baby called I think this is where he is at now.

Adelanto, CA


But just trying to see what this is about ?http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8777ca24d6.jpg
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If he's at Adelanto, it looks like Esperanza Immigrant Rights Project might be of some help to you. Click here to read about their services. Friday is one business day away, but they may be able to advise you on how to navigate the system.
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If he's at Adelanto, it looks like Esperanza Immigrant Rights Project might be of some help to you. Click here to read about their services. Friday is one business day away, but they may be able to advise you on how to navigate the system.
Before attending a Clinic or scheduling a consultation, please be aware that:

ASP is not designed to obtain legal representation at a short notice (such as 4 weeks or less before your next hearing before an Immigration Court Judge).

We are unable to offer representation to individuals residing outside of EOIR Los Angeles Jurisdiction and USCIS District 23. However, we are still able to provide a consultation. *

At this time, we are unable to represent individuals in detention or for bond hearings, or petitions for student, employment, or investor visas.

------- They said that........on their page.

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6. I have a relative/friend who needs representation for a bond hearing. Can ASP provide representation?

ASP at this time cannot provide representation for individuals in bond hearings.



7. I have a relative/friend in detention who needs representation. Can ASP provide representation?

ASP at this time cannot provide representation for individuals in detention.
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My baby might be able to talk with to them Friday after court or before depends what time he has it.

From what this says..........


LOP staff come to*Adelanto on Mondays, Wednesdays, and*Fridays, from 8:30 am-2:30 pm.


Through the*Legal Orientation Program, Esperanza staff members work with any*recently booked detainee at Adelanto who requests LOP services.


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My baby might be able to talk with to them Friday after court or before depends what time he has it.
Perhaps he can.

As was mentioned before, the pro bono and low-cost relief services are being pushed to the max right now. The stats show that less than 40% of all detained are represented by counsel-- that includes free and private pay. I think there's just not enough help for the number of people needing it.

Let us know what he says.
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( Update )


Tomorrow is his big day COURT HEARING with Immigration - December 8, 2017


Everybody please keep us in your prayers tonight



My baby Squeezy did not call me today at all.
So no wishing him good luck or I love you couldn't say nada. I hope he is doing okay

Hopefully manana he calls me with some good news


The not knowing......

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️ nada not a word.
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Not a word from my baby. No call. Nada.


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Im sorry! Were you able to go to the hearing? Wishing you the best!
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I thought you were going to the hearing??? What does it say online about his case?
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I was but he got moved far away.
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Update:


I think my baby tried calling me several times.


I did not answer because the voice saved was not his Voice but another inmate and from a different prison.

So I kept sending it to voicemail.

I just got somewhere now I have Wifi and seen on the online ice locator

He was the one calling me
He is now at Theo Lacy Facility - Orange, CA


I really, really wish he calls me again tonight.
Man but can you blame me it was a whole different prison and not my man on the line some other guy said a message on the NAME part of the call.

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THIS is all precisely why ANYONE with even the POTENTIAL for immigration issues NEEDS to secure counsel AS SOON as the issue rears its head. And yes, it is going to require money out of pocket because there is generally no right to appointed counsel and few immigration cases get the attention of the groups doing pro bono work.

Granted, where there is a history of repeat felony conduct, the likelihood of avoiding removal is substantially reduced even when competent counsel is involved, one cannot simply put it 'in the hands of god' or whatever deity one happens to believe in.
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THIS is all precisely why ANYONE with even the POTENTIAL for immigration issues NEEDS to secure counsel AS SOON as the issue rears its head. And yes, it is going to require money out of pocket because there is generally no right to appointed counsel and few immigration cases get the attention of the groups doing pro bono work.

Granted, where there is a history of repeat felony conduct, the likelihood of avoiding removal is substantially reduced even when competent counsel is involved, one cannot simply put it 'in the hands of god' or whatever deity one happens to believe in.
You can keep your negative comment.
We did not get counsel yet and that is OUR choice.

We have decided to wait for his 1st court hearing.
Everyone does things different.
That's how we felt not to have counsel his first hearing.

You upset of OUR decision ????


and don't tell me about my religion or my faith I have with my God with my higher power.


You don't like how I pray or stay positive.
Too Bad.


Then don't comment !
Go somewhere else with that.
Keep it to yourself.

((( Positive Vibes over here )))
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Look, I'm not going to argue with you about the laws of god v. The laws of man and how it takes an actual attorney and not just faith to deal with man's courts and man's laws. I am going to say that you are raw right now. CenTex is an attorney and rendered her opinion. It's very similar to the one I have when I'm hit with somebody who prays and has a good relationship with god and therefor an expectation that everything in the court of man will turn out for the best.

Pray. If that's your preference, pray. But don't expect God to answer a subpoena or present a bar card. For that, you need actual, human counsel. I'm sorry you disagree with this. There are times when all you can do is pray, and that's fine. But there are times when you need to sow seeds and not just expect god to feed you. Barring a sermons with loaves and fishes, it just doesn't happen without you actively doing what you can and not placing the entire burden on god.

Is this negative? No. It is practical. It is realistic.

With money tight and the high probability that a repeat felon will again be deported, I understand the choice to save the money to spend on things that can actually make a difference in your life. But then, don't expect the judge to fill in the blanks for a defense that was never presented. It just doesn't happen that way. Not when it comes to man's laws.

Now, the question is not what you should have done, but what you are going to do. You are in a very bad place with some very bad options ahead of you.
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Look, I'm not going to argue with you about the laws of god v. The laws of man and how it takes an actual attorney and not just faith to deal with man's courts and man's laws. I am going to say that you are raw right now. CenTex is an attorney and rendered her opinion. It's very similar to the one I have when I'm hit with somebody who prays and has a good relationship with god and therefor an expectation that everything in the court of man will turn out for the best.

Pray. If that's your preference, pray. But don't expect God to answer a subpoena or present a bar card. For that, you need actual, human counsel. I'm sorry you disagree with this. There are times when all you can do is pray, and that's fine. But there are times when you need to sow seeds and not just expect god to feed you. Barring a sermons with loaves and fishes, it just doesn't happen without you actively doing what you can and not placing the entire burden on god.

Is this negative? No. It is practical. It is realistic.

With money tight and the high probability that a repeat felon will again be deported, I understand the choice to save the money to spend on things that can actually make a difference in your life. But then, don't expect the judge to fill in the blanks for a defense that was never presented. It just doesn't happen that way. Not when it comes to man's laws.

Now, the question is not what you should have done, but what you are going to do. You are in a very bad place with some very bad options ahead of you.
If that's how you feel.
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Now, the question is not what you should have done, but what you are going to do.
St. Augustine was a real piece of work, basically crossed everything off a heathen's bucket list by age 30. But when he did convert, he took a pretty realistic view of things:
"Pray as if everything depends on God, work as if everything depends on you."

CTL and others advised you to seek counsel because he's already had his first hearing. However, yourself is correct, it's not useful to look back at what should have happened but rather what you can do going forward. She's also correct in saying that your options are likely limited unless money isn't an option for you or your loved one has a serious stroke of luck. This was desperate situation even before he was released from prison.

Here is the contact info for Lacy.
https://www.ice.gov/detention-facili...-lacy-facility

I still think it's worth contacting an attorney or immigration legal services group to get any possible advice or information they can provide about what to expect next, even if they aren't able to represent him.
https://www.justice.gov/eoir/list-pr...vice-providers

I understand your choice to remain positive and I respect that. But you can be positive and proactive at the same time. Right now, that second part means making calls and getting information about what to expect next.

I'm not sure where you're located, but there are immigration support centers that might not deal directly with the legal side of detention, but can help connect you with services. You can see if there is one in your area here:
https://www.immigrationadvocates.org...earch?state=CA

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"Pray as if everything depends on God, work as if everything depends on you."

I like that! I don't remember every reading it before.
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Squeeze, you 've just had a whole boatload of people tell you a lawyer will enhance whatever small odds he has of not being removed from the US. That's fact.

Your relationship with your God is an entirely different realm and not germane to the discussion. Religion bears essentially on coercing moral behavior by offering a carrot and a stick - heaven or hell. If you believe strongly in your God, then you have to actually LISTEN to what he's telling you. Things are not going your way. God may be telling you that you should move to Mexico and is using this way of getting that to happen. God may be telling you that this relationship isn't the one you should have for life. Or God is looking to find out if you love squeezy enough to move to his country. Whatever it is all about, you have to LISTEN. Assuming that because you pray hard that you will convince God to do what you want just isn't enough. Many, many people have prayed, very hard and earnestly, to be pulled out from under an avalanche, or from out of a mudslide or to be protected from being collateral damage in a war. A whole lot of them found out that either God wasn't listening right then or that God meant them to be under that avalanche or smashed by that mudslide or shot by that soldier. There are many other possibilities within the mind of God, and many other lessons one might learn, including how to listen to those whose expertise outweighs yours.

You don't have the right to tell God what to do. That's why S/he's God and you're not. You don't have the right to tell other people, who are giving you the very best advice that their training in law gives them special knowledge of, not to comment. You don't have the right to tell them that they're negativity is unwelcome. They're not being negative, they are giving you facts. You may not like them, but they're facts anyway.

Appreciate what everyone's trying to tell you and how much of their time and expertise are being expended on your behalf when they sit down and type out the fruits of their knowledge for absolutely free.
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