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Loving a Violent Offender Discuss the issues of having a violent offender as part of your life. Please keep in mind that some of us are married to violent offenders. Please remember that these offenders are human, and as such, can change... just like anyone else.

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Old 01-15-2008, 04:46 PM
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So What Do You Concider A Violent Crime?
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:01 PM
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As someone who works in the courts...the courts tend to view these as violent:
virtually any sex crime (with the exception of child porn, etc.)
murder
any type of assault (including domestic violence)
robbery
burglary
arson

Here's a good site but the part under the US is kind of vague. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_crime

Each court views things differently... I've given the opinion of the court I work in.
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:40 PM
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I would think that its anything that causes physical harm or the threat of physical harm to another or property. This can be an assault type or theft type crime.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:14 PM
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So Even If They Take A Deal They Will Still Be Concidered A Violent Offender Like Attemped Murder, Robbery, Assault... They Need To Change Some Laws. My Husband Took A Deal And Was Innocent It Was Hear Say And Nobody Was Harmed. They Charged Him With Attempted Murder.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:54 PM
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There wouldn't be an attempted murder charge if someone didn't have injuries... Plea or trial -- it's still a violent offense.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:37 PM
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This is what my husband got 25 - 50 years for...

threat of physical harm to another

No one was hurt but they men hid out in the apt. for 3 hours putting the two women in a bathroom but told them they needed a place to hide out until everything was clear....

The case was robbery/burglary...kidnap in the 2nd..
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If you look on the main page of this forum you will see a violent offender index. There is a vast list there and in many states what is considered a violent offense may not be in another. Unless it is like the murder, rape and other things that common sense tells us is violent.
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i agree with yourfriendlyda
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Yeah it seems that law states your violent if you threaten, you dont actually have to act out the violence, just scare someone enough into believing it.
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You may want to remember also that "violent" in day to day terms is not necessarily "violent" when it comes to mandatory minimums and TIS. Example: when you look at Missouri all "assaults" are not considered "violent". Not even all Assault 2nds. My husband is in for Assault 2nd but it is not considered one of Missouris "violent" crimes therefore he is not under the 85% Law.
Just a little info that I thought someone looking at this thread might find useful...it pays sometimes to wade thru all the "legal-ese"
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my old man has done 15 years for robbery and embellzment and so does tht make him a violent offender
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well, what i consider a violent crime isnt the same as the courts see it i dont think my man should be down because of what he did... but oh well i guess cant do anything about it now. hitting a guy once for self defense i wouldnt consider a violent crime, but they did, they are charging him with assult with a deadly weapon, not firearm... no weapons involved, just one single hit, although he did break the guys jaw, and he is no professional fighter or anything like that either, because i know that can be used.... just frustrating
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well, what i consider a violent crime isnt the same as the courts see it i dont think my man should be down because of what he did... but oh well i guess cant do anything about it now. hitting a guy once for self defense i wouldnt consider a violent crime, but they did, they are charging him with assult with a deadly weapon, not firearm... no weapons involved, just one single hit, although he did break the guys jaw, and he is no professional fighter or anything like that either, because i know that can be used.... just frustrating
You know back in the day, self defense was just that, now when you are protecting yourself, you are no longer a victim. Violent crimes are anything where there was some sort of intent, the victim feared for their life and or if there was some sort of weapon involved or on the person.
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Is simultaneous possession of a controlled substance and a fire arm considered a violent crime in Arkansas? How do you find a list of what is considered a violent crime in each state?
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Many of us has loved ones who are labeled violent offenders, but in their crime there was no violent behavior displayed or any violence what so ever. Yet they are violent offenders not only to the system, but to the rest of the world.
What crime do you think should not be labeled a violent offender and which one should. I do think if those label makers have a sensible discussion about this , then the labels would be different.
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Criminal Negligent Homicide should not be labeled as violent IMO. If you don't report the crime how is that violent? Maybe I am wrong but I don't understand it. In my mind violent is torture, brutal rape, dissecting body parts, & eating people, murder (depends on circumstances.)

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I don't think that being sentenced to prison for drug dealing should be considered a violent crime however, that was what they called my Lover, my Boo, and my Big Daddy (my boyfriend). What is violent about distributing drugs? I am not saying that it is the right thing to do, however, it's not violent.

Now take for intance, my brother, whom I love dearly is also classed as a VO. He is serving time for homicide. The guy and the guy's crew were robbing my brother at gun point which seemed like every weekend. My brother dated the guy's girlfriend and she became pregnant by my brother. This only added to the fuel so to speak. Anyway, my brother was a proud young man (only 19 @ the time), and he refused to inform the police about what was going on. He chose one fateful night to take matters into his own hands and he shot the guy in the head after wrestling with him. The judge sentenced him to 30 years in prison and to me, renamed him Violent Offender. I hate that It was my Pooncey that took the young mans life. But my brother was tired. It was getting to the point that it was going to be my brother or him. I think that oudo what you have to do. Honestly speaking though, I wished he would have gone to the cops instead. If he had, he would still be ChiChi instead of Violent Offender.

PS: I wonder if they changed the guys name since he was the one who committed all those acts of violence on my brother!
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Its says alot about a person with a title violent offender, and in some states that has violent offender registry it makes it worst. Cause its the title that ppl are going to see they aren't going to see whatever the crime is. Yes it was wrong for any of them to do their crimes but i think that the label should fit the crime. Violent if there was any intent of violence, or any violence involved in the crime.
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IMO, the label Violent Offender should only be used for people who actually commit violent acts. Otherwise what does it mean?

Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that these registries just don't work. The rate they're going, there will be more people on a register than not on one.
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[quote=No More Tears;3869995]I don't think that being sentenced to prison for drug dealing should be considered a violent crime however, that was what they called my Lover, my Boo, and my Big Daddy (my boyfriend). What is violent about distributing drugs? I am not saying that it is the right thing to do, however, it's not violent.

In some States Drug offenses are not violent offenses, like my State of Michigan.
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I think a violent offender is someone who intentionally injures or kills someone who was not a threat to them or anyone else.
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IMO, the label Violent Offender should only be used for people who actually commit violent acts. Otherwise what does it mean?

Sooner or later people will wake up to the fact that these registries just don't work. The rate they're going, there will be more people on a register than not on one.
You are so right, registries are used to play on the insecurities of ppl. They think if i know where they are then I can protect myself, that is not true cause you aren't going to know about all the ones . And some of those who are serious vo or so's don't even register. Life is full of the unexpected and unsurity( not sure if that is a word) and the media plays on all of that.
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To me, any crime in which "force" has been used is a violent crime.
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My brother in law was convicted of fel. assult and of course is listed as a violent offender but the funny thing is he is the biggest wimp my11 yr old could kick his butt everybody will tell you he can't fight and he don't fight. I am sure everyone is thinking then what did he do to get a fel. assult he shot a guy in the arm. Because he can't fight.
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As crazy as it seems, simply having a gun in your possession is a viOlent felony EVEN IF IT WASN'T FIRED!
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