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Post Amendment 4: Passed in Nov. 2018, Poll Tax signed into law June 2019

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Florida’s 13 million voters have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to help convicted felons who have paid their debt to society earn the right to vote, and a second chance. The Voting Restoration Amendment is a proposed constitutional amendment that would grant most of the 1.7 million convicted felons the right to vote and help select their leaders for local, state and federal offices.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/...219954405.html

Don't forget to vote on November 6 -- YES on Amendment 4, restoration of rights to felons.
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Amendment 4, giving felons the right to vote, did pass in November. Yea!! Right? Not so fast. Implementation was held up for bs reasons...shortly afterward, it was proposed by the GOP that felons should have all fees, fines, restitution, etc paid before they could register to vote. Amendment 4 did not include language for that assertion, so now the House & Senate both have a version of an amendment to Amendment 4 adding such language

House passes Amendment 4 bill requiring felons to pay up before they can vote

After hours of debate, the Florida House on Wednesday passed along party lines its version of a bill implementing Amendment 4, which was supposed to restore the right to vote to more than a million former felons.

The 71-45 vote sets up a potential dispute with the Senate over whether court fines, fees and restitution should be required before felons can vote.

The House bill requires all of those to be paid before a felon can vote.

The Senate bill requires restitution to be paid, but not court fees and fines if those have been converted to a civil lien, which often happens. It has yet to be heard on the Senate floor.

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...and an update:

Florida Governor Introduces a Poll Tax, Curtailing Amendment 4

On November 6, 2018, nearly 65 percent of Florida voters—more than 5 million people—resoundingly approved Amendment 4, restoring voting rights to over a million of their fellow citizens. By passing Amendment 4, Floridians successfully ushered in the largest expansion of the electorate in nearly 50 years. The people of Florida did it on their own, using a constitutional ballot initiative, to finally achieve change where Florida politicians had failed.

Instead of celebrating this progress, Florida politicians are trying to destroy it. The Florida legislature passed, and today the Governor signed, unconstitutional legislation that requires people who are eligible to vote under Amendment 4 to pay the exorbitant court costs, fines, and fees levied against them at the time of their conviction, or lose their right to vote. In turn, the ACLU and partners filed a federal challenge seeking to block the law.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rig...d1RE40Z4mTF_JY
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...of course they did
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Florida, and other States too, try to exclude people they think won't vote "correctly" from voting at all. This week the US Supreme Court allowed "political gerrymandering" of election districts, another popular way for politicians in power to rig elections. Add the "electoral college" where the loser of the popular vote still wins the Presidency, and it seems like the ability to fix elections has been made an acceptable part of the US voting process.
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Nope, it isn't acceptable Didn't SCOTUS leave the gerrymandering issue to the states? Maybe I'm confusing it with something else or misread / misheard

As for Amendment 4, how can they make changes w/o the PEOPLE that voted & passed the amendment voting on the changes
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Here's the NY Times article. Supreme Court Bars Challenges to Partisan Gerrymandering
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/u...mandering.html

Although the ruling was on a case dealing with a federal court decision, Chief Justice Roberts seems to have included all courts in his ruling.

"The districting plans at issue here are highly partisan, by any measure,” he wrote. “The question is whether the courts below appropriately exercised judicial power when they found them unconstitutional as well".

The answer, he wrote, is no, as courts lack the authority and competence to decide when politics has played too large a role in redistricting. “There are no legal standards discernible in the Constitution for making such judgments,” the chief justice wrote, “let alone limited and precise standards that are clear, manageable and politically neutral.”
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