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Loving a Violent Offender Discuss the issues of having a violent offender as part of your life. Please keep in mind that some of us are married to violent offenders. Please remember that these offenders are human, and as such, can change... just like anyone else.

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Old 08-03-2003, 04:13 PM
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Default What exactly is considered a 'violent offender'?

I would have never put my husband in this category, yet the jail has, he's in maximum security because he's a violent offender! He's never been violent in his lifetime!

Last year, Kevin met a man in his AA group. The guy was struggling with knee pain. Kevin made the stupidist decision of his life and gave the man some of his presrciption pain pills (Kevin has a herniated disk). 2 days later, the guy took all of the pils +3 other narcotics gotten from ?, and alcohol - he died. My husband was charged with Murder 2 and Distibution of a class 2 narcotic. Several months later, the DA dropped the charges to Invol Manslaughter and Accomodation to Distribution (meaning he gave the pills to accomodate pain, he didn't sell any drugs). KEvin pled guilty in MArch. Sentenced in June to 12 mths (he has no record).

Is it considered violent because someone died? My husband wasn't anywhere around when he died, he took these pills himself, but Kevin is being considered a violent offender. He is not allowed to work at the jail, locked in a cell 16 hrs a day, shackled when he's outside the cell. He told me that classification said that if all is well, he could be moved in a month or 2 to medium, where he can work and stay busy. He takes all responsibilty for his actions and feels guilty everyday.

Please tell me what is considered a violent offence? I read somewhere that it's considered violent if you offend a PERSON. Is this correct? Thanks for telling me!
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Old 08-03-2003, 04:40 PM
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Marci.. You have Property crimes and Violent offenses.
(drug dealing falls in with property because most people deal for money or write cold checks and break-ins to support a habit. Catburglars don't get rich...they hope to stay high.

Violent crime is what they'd call anything where victim suffered harm or death or had been threatened with bodily harm or death (rather than loss of nickel or grandma's broach or checkbook).

Dead body cases are violent crimes for the DOC purpose.
Malicious wounding, reckless homicide, involuntary manslaughter, assorted assaults, kidnapping... you get the idea I'm sure.

DOC likes to know who's coming into a prison. Particularly anyone in for a violent offense. The general idea being, if they've left one dead body or dead or wounded person in their wake,.. the Staff would like to know that in advance and take steps accordingly to size up the risk he poses to them and to any other inmate. It's the way it is done. It actually does make sense.
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Old 08-03-2003, 04:49 PM
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My boyfriend is a violent offender also. His original charge is car jacking with a toy gun. The fact that he stole someones car with a weapon in hand (real or not) is violent. Not a pretty picture.
It's hard for me too to imagine my boyfriend as being "violent". His personality is completely opposite anything to do with violence. However, he scared the hell out of someone, and that is violent in itself. Whether he had any intentions of hurting that person or not, the fact still remains that he had something in his hand that led the person to believe their life was in danger.
Completely different then your husbands story, but I do know what the label of "violent offender" can do.
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Old 08-06-2003, 09:38 PM
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What about a contiuing criminal enterprise? Is that considered a violent offense? It mentions possession and use of a gun in the inditment. No one was ever shot or killed.
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on the last sentence 12-25 1/2 years running with his 91 sentence no one got hurt- no one was touched. stupidity on everyone's part. it was about getting drugs from a dealer in his luxury manhattan apartment- my husbands ex-girlfriend died in 1993 so she wasnt able to be at the trial of course in 97 to say he wasnt there. his friend wanted to testify at the trial he is doing 25 years but the lawyers didnt want to use him. the doorman heard a fight break out in the apartment called the cops. she ran one way. the 2 guys up the steps... knocked on a door and said open up police this was at 12 midnight. the 2 ladies that lived there opened the door thinking something happen to their daughter so the guys pushed the door open so they had a place to hide out until the coast was clear. they told the two ladies we will not hurt you just need to be here until the cops leave. the guys left 2 or 3 hrs later. my husband was charged with robbery and kidnapping... 25 years his 3rd sentence.
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Old 08-12-2003, 09:33 PM
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my own son picked up attempted murder, two counts of kidnapping(they took the injuried party to the hospital)and one count of tourture for cutting off the kids dreads. he took the 'deal" of ten years. while this was all BAD and AWFUL it did get him a lot of respect and his own cell.......which has turned out to be a blessing!
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My son is considered a violent offender because his friend talked him into going to the friends managers home and taking a swig of alcohol. On the way home the car it a pot hole in the road, it threw the car off the road, went straight into a revene, hit a sewer pipe, propelled the up into a telephone pole and his passenger friend died. Now, James had not intent on killing his best friend or giving himself a traumatic brain injury, but because his friend died he is considered violent. I thought violence was a intentional thing, like when a man beats a woman or someone uses a gun, ect. This boy had no violence in him. He was sweet and kind. He had no record and ended up with a 31 year sentence in Augusta State Medical Prison. They had to put him in a medical prison d/ t his brain injury. He was supposed to go to a nursing home before his arrest. He doesn't even understand why he is there d/t his injury, but they want to consider him violent. He is 19 years old and with the brain injury he already has a life sentence in his head. I think if they wanted to they could consider all inmates violent offenders. I can't figure out what they consider non-violent.
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The tale that established my sweetie's "violent offender" status is that he supposedly took a poke at a state trooperwith a baseball bat from behind the wheel of his car, rather than accept a seatbelt ticket. The trooper was not touched. In any case, besides being known as a nonviolent individual he is hardly the kind of Darin Award material who would poke an armed cop wit a baseball bat while sitting down....can anyone spell "BS"?
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'scuse me, Darwin Award ....he is paying for this with ten years...
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Old 09-10-2003, 09:40 PM
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All of this talk with violent crimes makes me nervous but gives me support at the same time. My fiance has been charged with a violent crime (aggravated assault), which he did not do. 5 people signed a statement saying he shot at some apartments out of a moving vehicle when in reality, he was in another state with me the whole time. I've also gotten signed statements saying he was here. I think this was all put on him because he has a previous offense of aggravated assault, which was later knocked down to reckless endangerment, and the people that signed statements know that. But I know the feeling of being with a "violent offender". The term doesn't always fit the case.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:56 AM
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Reading these conditions which all of your honeys got deemed a violent offender is really ridiculous. Some of these laws have really got to change! My old man is busted for a double murder no accident about it either.
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Old 09-19-2003, 07:26 PM
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HI IM KINDA NEW AT THIS, ACTUALLY BRAND NEW. THIS IS MY FIRST POST. MY BOYFRIEND WAS CONVICTED OF A VIOLENT CRIME. ARMED ROBBERY, HE HAD 4 CHARGES AND WAS ONLY EVEN PRESENT AT ONE, BUT YOU KNOW HOW THIS STUFF GOES. HE WAS LOOKING AT 40 YRS. BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS SHOT, BUT HE WAS ABLE TO PLEA IT OUT AND ONLY GOT 46-61 MTS. HE JUST LEFT 2 MTS AGO AND IT HAS BEEN SO HARD. ITS HARD TO SLEEP, HARD TO GET UP. I KNOW MY FRANKIE HE GOT MIXED UP WITH SOME BAD PEOPLE BUT HE IS THE KINDEST MAN I HAVE EVER MET. AND THE FURTHEST THING FROM VIOLENT I HAVE EVER SEEN. HE'LL BE DOING HIS TIME IN NC. ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SYSTEM?
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My hunnie is charged with a violent crime, child abuse. He would never hurt or harm my children in anyway. The DA is intent on the fact that he did it in anger. What had happened is he had went to take my son by the arm, and my son tripped and my boyfriend held on to his hand to catch him......somehow this led to a broken arm, and now he is being charged with a class 3 felony with the presumptive range 10-24 years.......Not helping that when my hunnie was a teenager he was charged with a class 5 felony drug charge. He is no longer in to those things but because he was on parole and this is considered a extraindinary aggravating offence his attorney told him he could get 64 years?!?! The DA said he might plea it down to a misdeamenor but, how believable is the DA? We are still awaiting the preliminary hearing....but in the meantime he is stuck in the county jail.
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My son is considered a 'violent' offender because after taking his x-girlfriends mothers purse from HIS upstairs bedroom (no one inside the apt at all), he ran down the stairs and through the parking lot. The mother saw him and chased after him, of course she fell. He did nothing to hurt her or anyone else. Actually, I don't think the mother would have even said anything about it (hurting her finger), but the cop kept it up and kept it up til finally she went to the doctor and found out she had cracked a bone. The district attorney heard that, had it brought up in court.....so now he's consider violent. She tripped and fell on her own, he didn't touch her. Besides that, beins she got hurt instead of 1 yr county for theft he got prison time for robbery.
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My man is a violent offender... not only because he robbed a place with a guy who had a gun.. but because he has been fighting in prison.. 3 times. They are done with trying to help Anthony.. so they are moving him to a maxium security prison.. Scarryyy.
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Old 09-26-2003, 08:11 PM
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The real disappointing thing is that I know Frankie wouldn't do anything to hurt anybody. I mean, he is a man of the utmost caliber. And hardly dangerous.
Anyway thanx for helping me to become more clear on this.
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