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My Husband is asking me about this. He's in working on his plea. He has said something like he can go to an integrated yard...his lawyer has mentioned something about 65% time...in these yards (?) but I can't really find any truth to any of this. Also, are yards integrated yet, or like what is the deal on this?
I'm trying to get a feel for what he's asking/talking about and giving him some feedback as he has asked me to check into integrated yards..
Some are integrated some are not and some more will be in time the courts provided a timeline for doc to follow - there is no truth at all to the 65% sorry to say.
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Is there a forum here in PT that talks about the integrated yards, in Arizona?
I'd like to find out more about what this means, which ones they are, etcetera...especially if he signs to an integrated yard..
We already tossed out any truth to 65% - so no worries on that.
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Is there a forum here in PT that talks about the integrated yards, in Arizona?
I'd like to find out more about what this means, which ones they are, etcetera...especially if he signs to an integrated yard..
We already tossed out any truth to 65% - so no worries on that.
Youíll find stuff in random places but the moderators did their best to condense a lot of it to the top area called general prison talk and then the top section in there known as the stickyís called integration something or other - that has some stuff you can read. Unfortunately you canít ďsign on ď right away to an ihp yard at least that is what my guy said - he got sent there and agreed when there to stay whereas I know others at general pop yards are asked and either agree or donít and eventually if they donít there will be repercussions but I know my guy was not asked initially and in fact liked it and then was moved out of it for no reason which is dangerous to him after signing so it makes no sense really what doc seems to be doing... but as of now the yards that are integrated vary by level - the ones I know of are Santa Rita at Tucson, north at Florence, I think east at Florence but donít hold me to that and I think that is all right now. Supposedly they have to do another yard by March per the court order so weíll see - others prob can contribute more. I know my guy did well really well at Santa Rita and liked it a lot.
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Youíll find stuff in random places but the moderators did their best to condense a lot of it to the top area called general prison talk and then the top section in there known as the stickyís called integration something or other - that has some stuff you can read. Unfortunately you canít ďsign on ď right away to an ihp yard at least that is what my guy said - he got sent there and agreed when there to stay whereas I know others at general pop yards are asked and either agree or donít and eventually if they donít there will be repercussions but I know my guy was not asked initially and in fact liked it and then was moved out of it for no reason which is dangerous to him after signing so it makes no sense really what doc seems to be doing... but as of now the yards that are integrated vary by level - the ones I know of are Santa Rita at Tucson, north at Florence, I think east at Florence but donít hold me to that and I think that is all right now. Supposedly they have to do another yard by March per the court order so weíll see - others prob can contribute more. I know my guy did well really well at Santa Rita and liked it a lot.
If I'm not mistaking, they're already asking about him about integrated facilities. It's not that he is opposed to it, but he wanted to know more about what we know about it out here. Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it.
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Also, could my husband's timing get much worse after reading the thread (from page 2 of this thread), umm, March 2018 will be probably about the time he heads to Alhambra. I suppose this is something I need to stay up on especially if this becomes violent and bloody while they continue integration by court-ordered dates could you imagine heading into ADC at this time. Kinda freaking me out.

Are there any new updates like the PDF of dates that were listed (page 2 of this thread) with regards to what facilities are done/still in the process??
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Oh well that’s good that he was asked sorry for my misspeaking on that - usually Alhambra you don’t have a say - my guy didn’t there or the next stop but it’s good if they are asking people sooner if it’s something they are wanting. Just know that once in if they did move him out for whatever reason he will likely have to stay in the hole until he can get to another integrated yard and he can’t request he can’t say it all he wants but central processing decides where to move people so if his paperwork has on it that he was on one of those yards and he is moved to an yard that is not he will likely get jumped and have to ask for protection and they put you in basically what is the hole for what is usually a few months before you are moved - means less calls noncontact visits no rec and more - really stinks.
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Oh well thatís good that he was asked sorry for my misspeaking on that - usually Alhambra you donít have a say - my guy didnít there or the next stop but itís good if they are asking people sooner if itís something they are wanting. Just know that once in if they did move him out for whatever reason he will likely have to stay in the hole until he can get to another integrated yard and he canít request he canít say it all he wants but central processing decides where to move people so if his paperwork has on it that he was on one of those yards and he is moved to an yard that is not he will likely get jumped and have to ask for protection and they put you in basically what is the hole for what is usually a few months before you are moved - means less calls noncontact visits no rec and more - really stinks.
This sounds terrible - I will let him know.
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Yeah it stinks when they do that makes no sense esp when they r trying to force guys to go in who did not want to then having guys leave who want to stay who did nothing wrong. But that’s doc for you. Eventually all will be ihp yards per the court ruling but depends on your guys time bc they gave doc time to do it.
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Talk on integration has already hit several of the medium (3) yards. Last week the staff leaders at Lewis Stiner got together and yesterday they pulled the heads of all the races in for a meeting on it. It's still undetermined what they will do with those who refuse. The warden at Stiner is trying to claim that because they are a dorm setting that in his mind they are already integrated...but I don't think it's going to work like that.

Regardless, it's coming. March isn't very far away and the wheels are quickly turning.

Information, questions, concerns about IHP should be kept on this thread....as it goes on we may split it into different yards but it's doubtful as eventually everywhere will be integrated.

To my knowledge the only medium yard to fully integrate is Santa Rita on Tucson. I believe there is an integrated yard on Florence as well.
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Talk on integration has already hit several of the medium (3) yards. Last week the staff leaders at Lewis Stiner got together and yesterday they pulled the heads of all the races in for a meeting on it. It's still undetermined what they will do with those who refuse. The warden at Stiner is trying to claim that because they are a dorm setting that in his mind they are already integrated...but I don't think it's going to work like that.

Regardless, it's coming. March isn't very far away and the wheels are quickly turning.

Information, questions, concerns about IHP should be kept on this thread....as it goes on we may split it into different yards but it's doubtful as eventually everywhere will be integrated.

To my knowledge the only medium yard to fully integrate is Santa Rita on Tucson. I believe there is an integrated yard on Florence as well.
I agree with the dorm being integrated. Like how much more integrated can you get??
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Like how much more integrated can you get??
With blacks and whites and hispanics and natives sharing bunks, chow tables, lockers, etc.

Even in the dorm settings, in AZ, things are still very much segregated. Nobody bunks with someone outside their race.
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With blacks and whites and hispanics and natives sharing bunks, chow tables, lockers, etc.

Even in the dorm settings, in AZ, things are still very much segregated. Nobody bunks with someone outside their race.
I had no idea. Thanks for correcting me i read somewhere (I can't think of where now) that they were extending the times on the court order? Does that sound familiar at all?
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I had no idea. Thanks for correcting me i read somewhere (I can't think of where now) that they were extending the times on the court order? Does that sound familiar at all?
I haven't heard anything about them extending the timeframe but it's entirely possible. I don't follow the legal side of it very closely, only what I know if going on inside the prisons where I have friends and LO's.
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My boyfriend shared a cell with a white guy when they moved him to Buckley (he’s Mexican) and they got on well. I think they were ‘encouraged’ to share but they both agreed. It wouldn’t have looked good on him at that time to RTH. Now he’s in Barchey I’m pretty sure he’s still housed exclusively with Mexicans.

Intergration is supposed to be completed, across the board, by 2020 but I’m not sure if this is on track still.
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All 2 and 3 yards in the state prisons are to start intergrating in March threw June '19. Private prisons are immune from this. Each yard is making its own decisions on this

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Is there a forum here in PT that talks about the integrated yards, in Arizona?
I'd like to find out more about what this means, which ones they are, etcetera...especially if he signs to an integrated yard..
We already tossed out any truth to 65% - so no worries on that.
The original document is called the Rudisill decision. You can Google it. There is also an official DOC document stating it's implementation plan. It's a PDF file. If.you Google Arizona DOC IHP it's the first one. It spells out everything
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My hubby has been in winslow since October. Is it about that paper they're trying to have them sign
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I assume this in regards to IHP Yards, Integration. Refusing to sign is a refusal to house but I don't believe they can take all phones and visits. I thought it was just making them a phase 1 indefinitely. Unfortunately none of us really know WHAT will happen with integration.
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To put some of the speculation and worries at bay I'm quoting "Director’s Instruction # 345 , Integrated Housing Process and Procedures". In short, those who refuse to sign will be on permanent phase 1 but there will be no other disciplinary sanctions against them for refusal to house. My soon to be ex husband is at Lewis Stiner and they've been told (so take it for gossip) that those who refuse to sign will mostly be moved to Lewis. The same happened when they integrated Tucson-Santa Rita, those refusing to sign were moved to Eyman-Rynning (was GP at that time) and then to elsewhere in the state. This WILL start 3/1 for all MEDIUM (3) yards in AZ (with the exception of privately ran prisons, who may or may not).

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1.5.1 Inmates who refuse to house with any other race and the department has determined
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With blacks and whites and hispanics and natives sharing bunks, chow tables, lockers, etc.



Even in the dorm settings, in AZ, things are still very much segregated. Nobody bunks with someone outside their race.


Thatís bizarre. Is this segregation only in state-run prisons, only in max security, or what?
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That’s bizarre. Is this segregation only in state-run prisons, only in max security, or what?
It's in every state facility from min to max and most privately run prisons except for the 1 or 2 that have already been integrated. Tucson-Santa Rita and one at Florence I believe. I've not seen any AZ prison that wasn't segregated unless it was a SO or PC yard or a private facility (Kingman and Red Rock are segregated. I don't know about Marana or the GEOs for DWI) which I have no information about as I don't have anyone to report back from there. In dorm settings you only bunk with your own race. In cell settings you only cell with your own race.
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