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Just read this article about how the shutdown is affecting Federal prisons!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/20/polit...own/index.html

Also, just left visiting with my husband today and asked him if he's noticed anything different or people (CO's) not being there or changes in food (cut backs), etc. No food changes, but definite cutbacks in education programming. They have programs in the evening and they've been cancelling those on some evenings. He also said for the past 2 Wednesdays they have had a recall in the afternoon and they think the Warden is doing it to give the CO's a break perhaps because they're short staffed during that time due to the shutdown so by giving them a break, they can deal with giving them time off, and/or not modify visiting which thus far has had no changes. Fortunately, tomorrow is my last visit so whatever may happen going forward with a change in visiting, will not affect us, but it will be unfortunate for all the families that make the trip here to see their Loved Ones if they can't visit, however, the amount of people working for no money and living on credit cards and what not has got to be dealt with as well!
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Interestingly enough fed CO have to have a credit check before obtaining the position. What happens if their credit takes a nose dive due to the shutdown. They allude to the bribery reasons as to why it is a dangerous situation all the way around.

I hope it ends soon because there are too many suffering while those in power dont have to worry.
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hubby just called prison has been on lock down for most of the weekend and going back on lock down
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hubby just called prison has been on lock down for most of the weekend and going back on lock down
Wouldn't be surprised if it's because they were shorthanded for the weekend (especially since it's a long weekend) due to the shutdown.

I'm going back tomorrow for visiting. I usually have heard from my husband by now after a visit, but nothing yet. I'll be curious to see if I haven't heard from him if they wound up having been on lockdown all day while we were in visiting. If so, he will be very happy I'm back tomorrow and that we have 11 days to go before I come back to pick him up!
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Wouldn't be surprised if it's because they were shorthanded for the weekend (especially since it's a long weekend) due to the shutdown.

I'm going back tomorrow for visiting. I usually have heard from my husband by now after a visit, but nothing yet. I'll be curious to see if I haven't heard from him if they wound up having been on lockdown all day while we were in visiting. If so, he will be very happy I'm back tomorrow and that we have 11 days to go before I come back to pick him up!
Although he didn’t say specifically, most likely one of the reasons for sure and most likely while you were visiting your hubby, the prison was on lockdown.
P.S. Congratulations on his homecoming !
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Although he didn’t say specifically, most likely one of the reasons for sure and most likely while you were visiting your hubby, the prison was on lockdown.
P.S. Congratulations on his homecoming !
I heard from him. Turns out he went to watch the end of the NFC Championship football game!! Of course after he told me he wasn't going to bother. Lol. So no lockdown/recall today.
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I heard from him. Turns out he went to watch the end of the NFC Championship football game!! Of course after he told me he wasn't going to bother. Lol. So no lockdown/recall today.
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I know, right? Can't begrudge him that, especially when the last couple sentences of his email say this :

"You fill my life with joy. I can never thank you enough for all that you do for me and all that you mean to me!!!

Have sweet dreams!! I love you forever!!!"
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**Have sweet dreams!! I love you forever!!!"**


Sweet message. Love it.
Congrats on the nearing homecoming day!


Ive wondered about the shut down as well and how its affecting visiting.
feel especially bad for those who are furloughed. I dont think those folks get back pay like the ones forced to work.


This crap has got to stop.
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**Have sweet dreams!! I love you forever!!!"**


Sweet message. Love it.
Congrats on the nearing homecoming day!


Ive wondered about the shut down as well and how its affecting visiting.
feel especially bad for those who are furloughed. I dont think those folks get back pay like the ones forced to work.


This crap has got to stop.
Normally when you're furloughed, you are correct, they don't get backpay. You're told to not come in and work and you don't get any pay. The eseential employees come in and work for "free" for now until they get paid. Generally however, in the past, the furloughed employees (not the contract by the government ones) tend to still get the backpay. Not sure what will happen in this case, but I admit I'm mixed on whether or not these people should receive backpay for not working. Many of them are collecting unemployment, or other jobs. If they get the backpack for not working at all, then there should be some adjustment for the double dipping. Some also may not be trying to go work another job and waiting for the free payday if they can afford to sit at home not doing anything. But again, if they historically pay these people anyway when they're furloughed, then they should just ask them to all come to work anyway.

I have a friend who's an attorney for HUD currently on furlough. I'm going to ask him if he will get paid ultimately, or definitely not. Or if he has always gotten paid in the past. See what his thoughts are on it. I know they're very disgruntled and want to go back to work. And many, need to go back to work.

I feel bad for the COs and of course would love to offer to buy them something from the vending machines, but can't even do that without it appearing to be a bribe. I may ask them today though if there is a place outside of the prison I can make a donation to help them. That way it's anonymous I guess. I will be back here next week for 2 days before I pick up hubby so I can do it at that time and it's definitely no type of bribe since I'm taking him home for good!
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Every previous federal government shutdown, and there have been some, ended up with every federal employee, working and those sent home, received their full back pay. Congress authorized it, and the President didn't block it. Who knows what Trump will do, or attempt to do this time.
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I have been wondering how this shut down was effecting BOP. My son was sentenced on Jan 4th and he has not heard anything as of yet. I have also been checking his name at the BOP web site but he isn't there either. His lawyer did say it could be 2 weeks, 2 months or longer. I just hate the waiting. This nightmare all started in Oct 2015 when our home was first searched.
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If the inmate locator is still being updated during the shutdown. his name and bop ID number (xxxxx-xxx) should appear the first day he is actually in a bop owned prison. He may be parked at other places for awhile, local jails, etc. and won't appear on the bop locator.

He may be able to contact you by phone or letter, but it depends on the rules of each temporary jail/prison he passes through.
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If the inmate locator is still being updated during the shutdown. his name and bop ID number (xxxxx-xxx) should appear the first day he is actually in a bop owned prison. He may be parked at other places for awhile, local jails, etc. and won't appear on the bop locator.

He may be able to contact you by phone or letter, but it depends on the rules of each temporary jail/prison he passes through.
He is waiting for his information to self surrender. We were told his name would show up on the BOP site shortly before he would receive his letter with the self surrender info.
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He is waiting for his information to self surrender. We were told his name would show up on the BOP site shortly before he would receive his letter with the self surrender info.
All the inmate locator then would show is his name and number and "Not in Custody". It takes awhile to show up, and usually when it does, that's how you know he has been designated somewhere and his letter was sent.

My husband was sentenced in mid-September and didn't find out where he was to SS until early November, so all that time nothing showed up on inmate locator.

Then once he SS, his release date didn't show up for a few weeks later, so be aware of that one too. They're definitely updating the page as I know someone that just SS, but at least as for today it was a Federal Holiday so most people would've been off anyway in that BOP office in Texas.

One other thing. The BOP emails the letter to the attorney, so you won't be receiving it. You should be checking with the lawyer regularly to see when/if he receives it. My husband finally called the US Marshal's office when it had been so long only to find out that they no longer send it to the felon, but email it to the attorney.
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When he does appear on the locator, you will know his self surrender letter will soon follow. Be sure he prepares himself for prison, there is much information about what to expect posted here. Having money available right away for commissary/phones/email is very helpful. The least expensive way is to send a US Postal money order to the lockbox in Des Moines, Iowa. All other MOs are held for 15 days.
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When he does appear on the locator, you will know his self surrender letter will soon follow. Be sure he prepares himself for prison, there is much information about what to expect posted here. Having money available right away for commissary/phones/email is very helpful. The least expensive way is to send a US Postal money order to the lockbox in Des Moines, Iowa. All other MOs are held for 15 days.
https://www.bop.gov/inmates/communications.jsp#money
I never dealt with the hassle of sending anything in via a MO because I heard it takes so long, so I just sent Western Union right from my laptop every time he needed money. The max WU lets you send at a time is $300 to a Federal Prisoner. They get it within a couple hours so it's great and convenient. The downside is they charge $9.99 or maybe it's $9.95 per transaction. That was kind of annoying. You do earn points however that you can exchange towards the service fee. I sent money in about 1 to 1-1/2 months and got 1 free service charge. It was reassuring for me to know I could track it and know he received it, but again, it irked me that they were charging me more than 3% to send it. With a money order you can send more money in at a time and it sits on their account to go against their monthly commissary limit each month and other unlimited expenditures allowed.
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Until today, my guy hadn't noticed too many differences at his prison (USP Tucson) cause of the shutdown but today they now have them on a modified lockdown. Also, him getting a halfway house date has been delayed cause of the shutdown.
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My husband was just told by his lawyer that the shutdown is the cause of the delay in his PSR getting done and to likely expect a continuance in sentencing. We're good with this considering the importance of the PSR and making sure it is correct, accurate and done within the legal manner required.

I had heard that the federal courts were running on reserve until last Friday when they would "run out of money." I haven't heard what the effects of the shutdown on them are now.

I do know at least the regular PO's are working without pay but beyond that I cannot say.
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Until today, my guy hadn't noticed too many differences at his prison (USP Tucson) cause of the shutdown but today they now have them on a modified lockdown. Also, him getting a halfway house date has been delayed cause of the shutdown.
Oh no! Was he supposed to be getting out soon?

I understand the lockdown stuff, since that's happening for mine too, but not the HWH delay since the HWH's are run independently of the BOP. What's that all about?

Omg, if my husband doesn't get out next week, I'm not sure what he's going to do. I can handle it, not sure he will be so happy. I'll be more annoyed about spending the $ on the plane ticket. Although I guess this is what we pay the lawyer to deal with so hopefully this would be another reason to get my husband straight on the HC instead of the stupid HWH. He should have been out already due to a) the old age provision and b) the additional good time credit earned.

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I feel bad for the COs and of course would love to offer to buy them something from the vending machines, but can't even do that without it appearing to be a bribe. I may ask them today though if there is a place outside of the prison I can make a donation to help them. That way it's anonymous I guess. I will be back here next week for 2 days before I pick up hubby so I can do it at that time and it's definitely no type of bribe since I'm taking him home for good!
I read an article last night that said some of the BOPs were starting food banks for their employees. One was collecting baby supplies like diapers and wipes, formula, as several COs had just had a baby. I hate that it's happening, but it is that sort of story that makes you feel like people still care about each other.
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I read an article last night that said some of the BOPs were starting food banks for their employees. One was collecting baby supplies like diapers and wipes, formula, as several COs had just had a baby. I hate that it's happening, but it is that sort of story that makes you feel like people still care about each other.
I asked yesterday about where I can give and they said the Food Bank in Duluth. I know here the food bank is collecting, but that they cannot allocate specifically for Federal Employees which is ok, there are plenty of people in need. Not just the Federal employees.
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Oh no! Was he supposed to be getting out soon?

I understand the lockdown stuff, since that's happening for mine too, but not the HWH delay since the HWH's are run independently of the BOP. What's that all about?

Omg, if my husband doesn't get out next week, I'm not sure what he's going to do. I can handle it, not sure he will be so happy. I'll be more annoyed about spending the $ on the plane ticket. Although I guess this is what we pay the lawyer to deal with so hopefully this would be another reason to get my husband straight on the HC instead of the stupid HWH. He should have been out already due to a) the old age provision and b) the additional good time credit earned.

But, if there's a curve ball, like everything else, we just deal with it.
People are still getting HWH dates and leaving to go there during the shutdown so your husband would be fine!

The RRM NEW YORK A Residential Reentry Management (RRM) field office is where the paperwork for my guys HWH date is handled, so there are delays, I'm assuming due to being short staffed. My guy should have had a date months ago but with the BOP it's been drama drama drama drama drama,,,,can't wait to have him home and for the sake of federal workers I can't wait to see this shutdown end!
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