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Old 03-22-2017, 01:11 PM
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A.B.27 Is legislation that is post Stanford Rape case. They would like to add the new offense to the list of felonies defined as a "Violent felony"
Now what I find very interesting Under Physical comments is line #4
Here is what Prop.57 is now being called Proposition 57 was known as the "Parole for Non-Violent Criminals and Juvenile Court Trial Requirements Initiative.". Now if this is what Prop.57. is going to be ran as I see nothing what so ever for the violent offender under this Prop.57.
The Physical Comments Section, is more of those who agree with A.B.27 and those that disagree with this Bill. I am trying to read this material and type my post, so if this post is a mess now you know .lol.
9)Related Legislation are bills that they would also like to add to the "Violent Felony " list.
10) Prior Legislation: Shows legislation that was written, and what happened to this legislation The majority of these died in committee
Typical Sacramento B.S a lot of words being printed nothing getting done
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https://oal.blogs.ca.gov/files/2017/...00a2c-30841629

Emergency regs are here!
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Here is a summary of the emergency regulations per Initiate Justice. Sorry I had to race a dying battery on that last post lol.

Summary of the Regulations:

Non-violent early parole:

Initial screening for nonviolent parole (to determine if the "nonviolent" offense is eligible) begins June 1, 2017; second screening (to review rules violations, etc) begins July 1, 2017
Parole process will be a "paper process", not a formal hearing
People who have to register as sex offenders will be excluded
Third-Strikers will be excluded
If a person is eligible, they will be notified by their counselors.

Credit-Earning:

Effective May 1, 2017, good time credits to be expanded from 15% to 20% for people with "violent" offenses or Lifers with the possibility of parole
Effective May 1, 2017, good time credits to be expanded from 20% to 33% for people with "serious" offenses
Effective May 1, 2017, two-for-one good time credits awarded to people already eligible for fire camps, 50% credits for people with violent offenses who go to fire camps
Effective August 1, 2017, everyone now eligible for Milestones, earn a max of 12 weeks per year (up from 6 weeks)
Effective August 1, 2017, completion of 208 hours of Inmate Leisure Time Activity Groups (ILTAG) will earn additional 4 weeks off per year
Effective August 1, 2017, one-time retroactive 3 month credits will be awarded for earning HS diploma or GED
Effective August 1, 2017, one-time retroactive 6 month credits will be awarded for earning AA, BA, Postgraduate degree, or Offender Mentor Certification Program
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AB-27 has been amended, apparently heard and passed by the Committee on Public Safety. It has moved to Appropriations Committee. Unfortunately making progress. I don't know the process but one more step in the wrong direction. I'm attaching the bill as amended.

One thing that caught my eye is page 8 (Related Legislation). It lists AB 67 (Rodriguez), AB 197 (Kiley), SB 75 (Bates), SB 652 (Nielsen), SB 770 (Glazier) all recently proposed and in legislative process. All designed to add to PC667.5.

So there are now six bills including this one introduced in reaction to Prop 57 - not good developments for sure.
I finally got around to taking a comb to AB27. It is as we expected a push to keep things like Brock Turner's six month (serving three of it) from happening. Supporters reiterate that the general public assumes that many crimes they consider "violent" are currently listed as "serious" and the penal codes should be changed to reflect that. Opposition says this undermines the voters desire to release non-violent felons early per the passing of 57. Do we see where this went wrong?

None of that was a surprise. But as you mentioned, gvalliant, the addition of this:
d) SB 652 (Nielsen) defines as a “violent felony” the unlawful possession of a firearm by a person previously convicted of a felony enumerated as a violent felony. SB 652 has been referred to the Senate Public Safety Committee but has not been set for hearing

is new and a little alarming. Given that felon in possession is a highly-used charge and SB 652 would make it a strikeable, VO...the effects would be huge. I can see this one going either way in the votes.
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I did add her recommendations on submitting comments.

5 day comment period....




"What Can We Do Now?

1. Send Comments to CDCR!

Now that the Prop 57 draft emergency regulations have been released, a 5-day public comment period has begun. You can send written comments directly to CDCR at:
Vicki Waters
Phone: (916) 445-4950
Email: vicki.waters@cdcr.ca.gov

Deadline: March 29, 2017

2. Send comments to the Legislature!

A budget to implement Prop 57 must also be approved, so you should also contact Senator Nancy Skinner and Assemblymember Shirley Weber's offices, since they chair the Public Safety Budget committees that have budget oversight power. Email and/or call them before the April hearings:

Senator Skinner:
Phone: (916) 651-4009
Email: erasmo.viveros@sen.ca.gov
Address:
State Capitol, Room 2059
Sacramento, CA 95814

Assemblymember Weber:
Phone: (916) 319-2079
Email: anthony.dimartino@asm.ca.gov
Address:
PO Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249

3. Come Out to the Budget Hearings on Prop 57!

In addition to sending written comments and calling Senator Skinner and Assemblymember Weber's offices, you can come out to Prop 57 implementation budget hearings at the State Capitol. Initiate Justice met with their staff members yesterday and they told us that it makes a really big difference when people attend the hearings and make their comments in person! If you want to attend, please sign up here. Info is below:

Senate Prop 57 Budget Hearing:
Thursday, April 20, 2017
9:30 am, Room 113
State Capitol, Sacramento, CA
Facebook event link here

Assembly Prop 57 Budget Hearing:
Monday, April 24, 2017
2:30 pm, Room 127
State Capitol, Sacramento, CA
Facebook event link here

4. Donate to Support Initiate Justice!

Initiate Justice is a small, volunteer team that cannot do this work without the support of individual donations. Please donate $10, $25, or $50 right now to help pay for stamps to mail the regulations to people inside and support our mobilizations to Sacramento. Every dollar helps!

Thank you so much for your participation, and stay hopeful. Together, we can make sure that Prop 57 will help folks come home to their families. Stay tuned for more updates!

Take care,
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"Join an in-person meeting to learn about getting our voices heard on the Prop 57 regulations at USC School of Law March 22nd at 7pm."
I'm guessing no one was able to make this? If you did...was there anything new to add to the conversation?
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Was about to post the link to the regs but u guys r on it already

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All right, here we go! Thank you (all three of you!!) who posted the Emergency Reg info so quickly.

Because this thread contains post-vote info, but pre-implementation info as well, I'm going to close this thread and open a new one.

Do not panic.


All topics of convo are still on the table but this Prop has its unique eras of discussion and we are at 400+ posts since Nov. I'd like to keep this as nav-friendly as possible.

***New thread can be found here.***

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