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Old 01-04-2020, 09:24 AM
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Ok, so my LO is getting sent to Hope Village in Washington, D.C. and this facility is so unprofessional, in poor condition and overall not a good form of reentry for anyone looking to start anew and better themselves. It’s in a bad neighborhood, the same neighborhood that someone lives who he was beefing with in the free world. He’s stated that he’s afraid and that it’s not safe for him to be there.

There’s another halfway house in Baltimore, MD that is more centered on reentry and counseling. Who can he or I talk to in order to get sent to this facility? I know beds have to be available, but aside from that, what higher level needs to be contacted?
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The chance of getting a reassignment of halfway house is probably very very low. Think of it this way though- no matter how challenging the situation, lots of people get through it and make the time productive. It takes the will to succeed, desire to better oneself, and a lot of faith. No halfway house provides ideal conditions. Best of luck!
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It’s going to be all about his mindset. When my boyfriend got out his halfway house was literally next door to a club that had dance music until 2am, you could walk out and buy drugs before you could get to the corner store for a soda. Since he has been out he has run into many people who owed him money or he probably would like to have words with. His goal should be getting employment and getting out of the halfway house. It doesn’t hurt to try to get it changed.
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I don't think it's optional where he is placed. I don't want to sound mean but you definitely should stay out of it. Nobody will listen to him, let alone his girlfriend. They get sent where they get sent.

He needs to just stay focused on what he needs to be doing not where he is at. I hope everything works out for him.
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The chance of getting a reassignment of halfway house is probably very very low. Think of it this way though- no matter how challenging the situation, lots of people get through it and make the time productive. It takes the will to succeed, desire to better oneself, and a lot of faith. No halfway house provides ideal conditions. Best of luck!
The halfway house is in the ghetto. How can one re enter and transition back to society when the neighborhood the halfway house is, filled with drugs, crime and gang activity? Even if he’s on his p’s and q’s and does his job, he can be harmed or even worse, killed.
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The halfway house is in the ghetto. How can one re enter and transition back to society when the neighborhood the halfway house is, filled with drugs, crime and gang activity? Even if he’s on his p’s and q’s and does his job, he can be harmed or even worse, killed.
That’s were they put felons is in the ghetto. Most of America doesn’t understand a rehabilitated convict. Do you think middle class America wants a parole house in the nice neighborhoods. And quite frankly that is the best place to re enter. All the programming and assistance is in the we cities or “ghettos”. They will put him where they want. Parole means he is getting a chance to be out here. He will still belong to the state. Mine has been on parole 21/2 years. He could get yanked up and put back at any moment and many do. Thank god mine was put in the inner city he had resources, and employment specialist assigned to him, a housing coordinator if he had needed it, legal resources that he used and because of that is getting quite a few felonies expunged. The same months he gets off parole he is set to graduate with a degree in alcohol and drug counseling all paid for by those resources in the ghetto. This is how a convict gets a life they have to re build. We as their women don’t do it for them. They need resources and then THEY need the desire to change.

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Most half way houses are in bad neighborhoods. It's not where a place in that makes a difference in if a person makes good or bad choices. They need to be able to make good decisions and choices no matter where they are.
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That’s were they put felons is in the ghetto. Most of America doesn’t understand a rehabilitated convict. Do you think middle class America wants a parole house in the nice neighborhoods. And quite frankly that is the best place to re enter. All the programming and assistance is in the we cities or “ghettos”. They will put him where they want. Parole means he is getting a chance to be out here. He will still belong to the state. Mine has been on parole 21/2 years. He could get yanked up and put back at any moment and many do. Thank god mine was put in the inner city he had resources, and employment specialist assigned to him, a housing coordinator if he had needed it, legal resources that he used and because of that is getting quite a few felonies expunged. The same months he gets off parole he is set to graduate with a degree in alcohol and drug counseling all paid for by those resources in the ghetto. This is how a convict gets a life they have to re build. We as their women don’t do it for them. They need resources and then THEY need the desire to change.
Well said. I was going to comment something similar. Almost all HWH's are "in the ghetto" if for no other reason "self respecting" neighborhoods would fight such a place. The only other option for these inmates is to remain inside, which many do simply to avoid all the hoops of a HWH. And while yes, there are hoops to jump through, many have said no matter what a "shithole" the HWH was it was a huge step up from the prison setting.


As others have said, it's not the area; it's not the HWH; it's the person who makes the difference in re-entry.
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That’s were they put felons is in the ghetto. Most of America doesn’t understand a rehabilitated convict. Do you think middle class America wants a parole house in the nice neighborhoods. And quite frankly that is the best place to re enter. All the programming and assistance is in the we cities or “ghettos”. They will put him where they want. Parole means he is getting a chance to be out here. He will still belong to the state. Mine has been on parole 21/2 years. He could get yanked up and put back at any moment and many do. Thank god mine was put in the inner city he had resources, and employment specialist assigned to him, a housing coordinator if he had needed it, legal resources that he used and because of that is getting quite a few felonies expunged. The same months he gets off parole he is set to graduate with a degree in alcohol and drug counseling all paid for by those resources in the ghetto. This is how a convict gets a life they have to re build. We as their women don’t do it for them. They need resources and then THEY need the desire to change.
Everyone is missing the whole point. If he has a target on his back, he stands no chance of surviving by simply minding his business and doing everything he’s supposed to do. There’s the difference.
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Well said. I was going to comment something similar. Almost all HWH's are "in the ghetto" if for no other reason "self respecting" neighborhoods would fight such a place. The only other option for these inmates is to remain inside, which many do simply to avoid all the hoops of a HWH. And while yes, there are hoops to jump through, many have said no matter what a "shithole" the HWH was it was a huge step up from the prison setting.


As others have said, it's not the area; it's not the HWH; it's the person who makes the difference in re-entry.
If he can’t even survive and remain alive, how would it be his fault for the HWH’s condition and the neighborhood within? Yes, a person makes the difference but if he can’t even simply stay alive, then there’s no point of going to the halfway house. He should just max out.
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Everyone is missing the whole point. If he has a target on his back, he stands no chance of surviving by simply minding his business and doing everything he’s supposed to do. There’s the difference.
If he has a "target on his back" as you say then it wouldnt matter where the HWH is located and the better option would have been to skip the HWH all together until he could parole to home if this was a serious concern for him.
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I don't think it's optional where he is placed. I don't want to sound mean but you definitely should stay out of it. Nobody will listen to him, let alone his girlfriend. They get sent where they get sent.

He needs to just stay focused on what he needs to be doing not where he is at. I hope everything works out for him.
If you know street life and the criminals who “run the streets.” They do not care if you are changed and have your life turned around. All they see is beefing and getting even. Even if he goes to the halfway house, he can be killed by simply minding his business and trying to survive. It’s a broken system. A repetitive system. He can stay focused all he wants to, as he will because he’s sat on a better means of living, but the whole situation makes the transition deemed negative.
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If you know street life and the criminals who “run the streets.” They do not care if you are changed and have your life turned around. All they see is beefing and getting even. Even if he goes to the halfway house, he can be killed by simply minding his business and trying to survive. It’s a broken system. A repetitive system. He can stay focused all he wants to, as he will because he’s sat on a better means of living, but the whole situation makes the transition deemed negative.
I understand about the streets. The issue is you don't seem to understand the prison system. The fact that as a girlfriend to someone you met while he was in prison think you can talk to someone about his situation speaks volumes.

It's a half way house. If he feels unsafe he should stay in prison and complete his sentence. If he has a target prison isn't safe either.

When you do illegal things and get caught you are at the mercy of the people in charge of your punishment.

My boyfriend is getting released soon. He has to go to a transitional living facility for 60 days. He was complaining about all the rules and regulations. I told him if it was too much to stay and complete his sentence.

The situation they are in sucks but it's a situation they had the power to avoid. They made their choices and have to accept the consequences.
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I spoke to a few federal prisoners who had voluntarily returned to FCC Petersburg, VA from that HWH because it was so terrible. Frequent street robberies, especially on Fridays, unless the "residents" traveled to and from the HWH by Taxi. Lots of drugs and other drama too. Regardless of if you "know the streets" or not, one or two people on payday is apparently too tempting for the local home boys to ignore.
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Hope Village is a special corrupt place in hell. I am pretty sure I recently read in the Washington Post that there is finally a criminal investigation. It has been awful for more than 20 years. The Montgomery County Detention Center has a
"model" halfway house, which is the best place in the region. How much time does he have before he has to make the transfer? It is very difficult to make a change but it takes time to attempt it. All things being equal, I would probably stay in the prison rather than go to Hope Village.
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