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Old 09-11-2008, 07:17 PM
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So I am reading that at the time the inmate is released they must pay the first $50 before release? Can this payment come from family or does it have to be the inmates money?
Also, a nit off topic but, having to do with money....How do we find out if past due money (restitution,fines etc) is due? Do these also have to be paid before the Parole Hearing? At release? etc.
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I am still not sure about the $50 to file a home plan. The IPO at the facility where the inmate is housed could probably clarify whether or not that is factual. Fines, restitution, court costs, etc. are a part of the inmate's sentencing order. A copy of that can be gotten from the Circuit Clerk's office in the county where the inmate was sentenced. Also, it is a part of the the inmate's file, and they may be able to get a copy from their counselor or case manager. They do not have to be paid before an inmate paroles, however, they could be a condition of parole and a dilligent PO will arrange for payments to be made on those while the inmate is under their supervision.
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Just when you think you know all there is to know about the WV DOC, and parole services, they got to go and throw a wrench in it somewhere, don't they???
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Hopefully, someone will come along soon who has some verified information about this new procedure. If the plan is denied, does the inmate have to pay $50 every time one is filed? Interesting.
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Home plans are administered by the Parole Board or a local Parole Officer?
I guess the question is if I were to call our local PO (who can and has been very informative) would they be able to clear this issue up?
How soon before the Hearing do they actually do the home plan? Do they give any notice or one day, there they are on your porch? WIll there be paperwork they will require of me?
Gee, why would I have so many Home Plan questions??? Jennifer (my daughter) is due for her hearing in January. As some of you know she is down in Lakin. (OK that was dumb, of course she is!! no other female prison in WV). Anyway yesterday she called and was excited. She said she got her outside clearance. (Is that a Level 1?) Yesterday she was very apprehensive. She was being pushed out of her "box" and comfort zone. She has been training dogs in the Rover Rehab Program for autistic kids. She had just gotten her 4th trainee ( a puppy). She was already stressing yesterday about missin gthe little guy. She first came across like she might tell them she didn't want to move (not just for the dog program but, sevsral other reasons). I told her under no circumstances shoudl she do that. I fear the System would take that as a way of her telling them that she didn't trust HERSELF with limited freedom. Today she was moved to one of the mobile homes. She sounded quite reserved today, almost fearful. She seems like a freshman in high school, amongst a bunch of Seniors. For 3 yrs she has known the routine of a normal day. She had "friends", new the rules,etc. Her comment today was "It is so different here", there is no onsite counselor, no request forms etc. The things she is used to. I asked her tonight if she had checked into the rules of the house. SHe can have ZERO writeups from Oct. 15th till the hearing, she HAS to be careful and proactive. She asked another girl tonight and was told there is a rule list. None was offered for her to see. This has her a bit worried! She could mess up without knowing she is doing something wrong. I pushed her to ask someone tomorrow for the list. We all know how the last 3 months are rough for them to be set up so they have to forefeit their hearing. OK, with all that said (and asked),am I getting the right idea that she will probably be released this time up? Would they put someone in the mobile if not? I heard it is their foot out the door. Also, has anyone ever heard of an early Parole Date? On Jan. 11th she was given a flat. I know that means she can see the board again on Jan 11th (or thereabouts) this year. BUT, with her hearing being that close to Christmas do they ever release them early for the holiday? She is coming up on year three of a 2-10 (mal. wounding).
Sorry this turned out so long. I just know Vicki is aware of Lakin and how it "works".
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Dee,

Home plans are submitted by the IPO (institutional parole officer) to the local parole office, who will contact you and set an appointment time for the PO to come to your home and meet with you. I am not aware of any paperwork that you will be required to complete, however, they will ask you about financial resources and whether or not they are adequate to support the parolee until they are able to obtain employment. Also, they will determine whether or not the home has adequate space for an additional person. They like to see the parolee have their own room, if possible. Also, no alcohol or weapons are allowed in the home. They may also inquire if someone in the home is on prescription narcotics, opiates or anti-psychotic medications, espcially if the parolee is someone with a drug abuse history. Once the PO has completed their visit and investigation they willl notify the IPO as to whether or not the home plan is approved, and in turn the Parole Board is also notified. Effective this past June, if a home plan has not been approved at the very latest a week before the inmate's scheduled parole hearing, the inmate will not be seen and will be given further consideration by the board and seen at a later date when a home plan has been approved. Unfortunately, the Parole Board doesn't do early releases because of the Christmas holidays. I know of someone who actually saw the board and made parole on the 23rd of December. If your daughter has a January parole eligibility date, then she will see the board whatever day in January they are scheduled to be at Lakin.

An outside clearance doesn't mean a classification level of 1. Most outside clearances are level 2's, which is minimum security. Level 1's are community clearances which is what inmates obtain when they are sent to Work Release. It sounds like your daughter is doing really well, Dee, and working her way towards coming home soon! As hard as it might be to hear (and coming from somone who experienced it first hand) your daughter is institutionalized to some degree, and it although more freedom and less restrictions is what we all yearned for, it can be scarey when you find yourself in a less structured environment. It will take her a little while to acclimate to her new housing, but once she does, she will be just fine. She knows what she has to do with her next parole hearing coming up, and she'll do it! After all, that's how you get home!

I wish you both the very best and good luck!

P.S. If your local PO office has been helpful in the past, it might be a good idea to call and ask about the $50 home plan filing fee. At least we would have it straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:33 AM
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Talking Home Plan Charges.............(snopes)..................

I spoke with a PO today in Berkeley County. He (Mr. Catlett) says he has never heard of such a thing. He said once the Parolee meets with him for the first time he looks at all their debts (restitution, court costs etc) and makes sure there is a payment plan to get them paid off. He said there is a $40 per month supervision charge but, that is not due until the month following release.
Just for the record, I asked him if his job is to merely babysit Parolees or if he actually tries to help them find work by directing them to places that will hire a felon. He became very quiet and said we tell them who hires felons. You could tell he knew how hard it is for a felon to get a job.
I asked him if the Father to their daughter (who rents a room here now AND is a felon) would have to have totally moved out before the Home Visit. Ready for his response???? He said well they could ask the Board during the Home Visit if they would consider letting them live together.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He said it is done on occasion. He said because he is Federal (drugs) and she is State(violent) that it may work for them to live in the same house. I just spoke with his PO (Fed) and he said he would not have a problem with it as long as the State approved it. Both PO's know that they are not married and never have been. Not that the State cares but, their daughter has not had a Parent since she was 3 months old until about a year ago (she is 3 now). She is VERY dependant on Daddy being here!!! She will not eat if he is not here. I am sure she will be the same way with Mommy!! I think it is important for the kids stability to have both Parents here. Of course now all we have to do is get the State to agree.
Now for my other question.....I would like to hear from people who have had a State Home Visit done, what it entails? How thorough are they? I am disabled and I was losing sleep last night that they will come here and do a search and seizure type thing. You know where they dump drawers and closets out and leave a mess for ME to clean up. I would appreciate getting some settled sleep, if I could hear from different people what a home visit consists of.
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Dee,

When the PO did the home visit with my sister before my parole, she was very thorough with the questions that she asked. She did a walk through my sister's home and even spoke with my niece who was 11 at the time about how she felt about having me live there with her and her mother. She was also thorough with Michele about what I could and couldn't do and what could not be in the home while I resided there. She did not do an inspection or open the first drawer or ask that anything be opened for her. I have never heard of a PO doing a seach and seizure type of visit. However, my PO made it clear to my sister that they had the right to pay unscheduled visits any time of the day or night.

Hope this puts your mind to ease somewhat.
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P.S.

Thanks for the information about the $50 filing fee for a home plan. Coming from a PO goes a long way to put that rumor to rest.

Also, that's good news about the PO suggesting to request the board approve your daughter and her boyfriend being allowed to reside together in your home with their daughter. One thing for sure, you'll never know if you don't ask.

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i got a good friend who is up for parole again in dec
when he got paroled the very first time before he made his home plan
to live with his grandmother, but she has passed away
what we was wondering is that since he has no family now
do u think they would let him parole to someone who is not family
he has known this couple for years as a matter of fact when they lived around him they would take care of him, feed him and all that stuff, they would even keep him out of trouble, they took him as their own son in so many ways. they have said that they would let him stay with them and help him or give him a job and stuff,
so do any of yall think that would approve him for this place i knows its all up to the parole board or parole office i was just also wondering if it would hurt for them to tell a little lie and say that they are family like they could be his aunt and uncle and do you also think maybe they should write the board and stuff and let them know they are willing to let him stay ?
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I don't know a lot about the home plans, but I'm pretty sure you shouldn't lie about anything when trying to get one approved.
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The couple who is willing to allow your friend to parole to their home, should write to the Institutional Parole Officer at the facility where he is housed. They should state exactly how they are willing to support him should he granted parole. Under no circumstances should they lie, but should emphasize the closeness of their relationship even though they are not related. The IPO will submit the inmate's home plan to the local parole office and an agent will visit the home and speak with the couple to verify what is in the home plan. The agency will determine whether or not the home plan is approved and notify the IPO of his decision. It is absolutely possible to parole to a home that is not a family member if all the guidelines are met.

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well thanks for the help
ill be sure to tell them to write
also i was wondering if someone would rent him a place of his own do they let inmates parole to their own place or do they have to have someone their with them ?
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Sorry for the delayed response. Yes, if the inmate is financially stable enough to pay his rent and other expenses and the PO approves the apartment and neighborhood, an inmate can parole to his own place.
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My fiance was extradited to pa and is serving time in pa prison. He is up for parole in March. We have lived together prior to his arrest for almost 5 years. We have a very stable home and good friends and family. His arrest stemmed from old warrants he had before we met. Any ways, my question is pa will let him apply to wv for parole but will wv even consider our home as a valid home plan ?He has no other family to parole to.He has gotten clean and sober and totally changed his life during the 5 years we spent together and we are his only family. I know the law about cohabitation is still on the books in wv. But are there any exceptions?
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This is something he needs to discuss with the person in charge of inmate home plans in the facility where he is housed ASAP as in WV 99.9% of the time the receiving PO will not approve a home plan where there would be cohabitation. Since he would be received by WV from PA via Interstate Compact, I would assume he has to follow the rules of the receiving state. Also, it wouldn't hurt to call the PO office in WV that would be following him and speak to one of the agents there.

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Thanks justvicky, I already called 2 parole offices in charleston wv and they've been really nice but not too helpful about what our options are. They said the same as you though, that paroling to me was doubtful since we are not married. Will they let him live on his own? Can he live with some of our friends from church for a few days until we are married?There is no other family at all that he could parole to. What happens to other inmates who have no one to parole to? Are they just stuck in prison until they max out their sentence?
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Yes, inmates who have no one and no where to parole are stuck until they max out or eventually find somewhere and someone to parole to. Sometimes they are sent to either Charleston or Huntington's work release facilities where they are able to work and earn enough money to get a place of their own that the parole agent approves, but that is rare. In fact, inmates in WV facilities who do not have an approved home plan prior to their parole eligibility date, will not be seen by the parole board until they do. It really can be difficult for some of them.

Yes, they will let him live on his own, if he has the financial means to support himself, but you need to remember that where ever the paroles to initially he has to wait three months before he can apply for a transfer. Also, in order to get married, he will have his parole agent's approval.

Have you thought about getting married before he paroles? I know its not the what most of us imagine when we get married, but it would probably solve the home plan problem, and you could always renew your vows with friends and family once he got home.

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Check out these threads in the Probation, Parole & Supervision Forum (where you'll find lots of threads about Interstate Compact):

FAQ - Interstate Compact

Interstate Compact Agreement

With you not being married and his having no other family, I would say that he wouldn't probably not be approved. I was told by a Parole Office that used to frequent PTO (and I think he was from WV!) that just because my husband lived with me in a state other than where he was incarcerated, that did not make him a resident - especially if he had warrants out from his previous state of residence. This was our reason for going ahead and getting married while he was still incarcerated - not a dream wedding - HECK, the groom wasn't even there! - but the end results the same and he was able to come home to me while on parole!

As Vicki said, he needs to beginning discussing this with the parole/probation person at his unit. I hope things work out for yall!
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The PO called yesterday to set up the Home visit appt. It is set for Thurs. Dec 11th. I live in a 3 bedroom house. I told her my 6 yr old grandson (daughter's son) is in one room, her 3 yr old daughter is in another (quite large) room, with two beds. Of course I have the other bedroom. The PO was not happy hearing my daughter did not have her own room. I told her that there is both a twin bed and a toddler bed in the 2nd bedroom. Her daughter has been moved sooo much in the past 3 years. She is just now getting to feel like this is home again. Her Dad stayed here up until Nov. 1st. He is a felon so he moved out so as not to interfere with the Home Plan/Parole of my daughter. So now my grand daughter sleeps (not well at all) in the room alone. I told the PO that I felt it would be important that my daughter could share her room. Her response then was " I willhave to see the setup fo myself". I am worried. At the time of the Home Visit my income will be quite low. My divorce should finalize in February and then my income will increase (hopefully) considerably. I am wondering too, if she can do WV Works/welfare. They give you training for work and a check in the meantime. Her charges were not drug related so she can get benefits. I just know with the economy/unemployment what it is a felon finding a job is going to be a JOKE (so to speak!) Can they hold it against her if she can't find work? I think I have heard that if they don't get work they can be sent back in. Does anyone know if that is true? I am worried.
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When the PO did the home visit with my sister before my parole, she was very thorough with the questions that she asked. She did a walk through my sister's home and even spoke with my niece who was 11 at the time about how she felt about having me live there with her and her mother. She was also thorough with Michele about what I could and couldn't do and what could not be in the home while I resided there. She did not do an inspection or open the first drawer or ask that anything be opened for her. I have never heard of a PO doing a seach and seizure type of visit. However, my PO made it clear to my sister that they had the right to pay unscheduled visits any time of the day or night.

Hope this puts your mind to ease somewhat.
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Dee,

PO's can be very non-commital when it comes to answering questions - which can be maddening and frightening - but not necessarily negative. While they like to see the parolee have their own room, I do not think they would turn down a home plan for that reason alone. I have to say that I am glad your daughter's BF moved out because I do believe his living there would have caused a denial had he remained.

Call the WVDHHR office in your area and asked to speak to someone about what type of benefits your daughter would be eligible for including WV Works. I was able to get the maximum food stamp allowance, and that would definitely help with your lowered income. Also call your local WV Division of Rehabilitation Services regarding services your daughter might be eligible for. Finding a job will be hard and discouraging, but it is very possible that rehab services can help her with re-training or even enrolling in school. I was able to finish my bachelor's degree with their help and guidance. Let the PO know what you have found out and what her plans are. Take advantage of every program that she can find that she is eligible for and as long as she is making a genuine effort to better herself (and her monthly supervisory fees are paid, along with any restitution payments she may have), the fact that she isn't working should not be a issue with her PO.

Pray without ceasing, Dee, for God's mercy and understanding, and he will bring your girl home. Good luck and let us know how things go!
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My uncle was just paroled from st. mary's a few months ago and he almost didnt get paroled b/c his ex wife did not set up a home plan he had to stay in for an extra 30 days after seeing the parole board cuz he didnt have his home plan done/complete...im not sure about any other prison but i know he had to have it ready before he went up before the board at st mary's so i would def. be lookin into it if i was u hun just incase, maybe give his attorney a call or call the prison..hope i helped a lil Good luck to u and ur family and god bless...
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As an update to this thread, effective June 2008 home plans must be submitted and approved no later than one week prior to the inmate's parole board hearing date. If an approved home plan is not on filed by then, then inmate's hearing date will be set off by the board, and rescheduled when a home plan has been approved.
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The PO came as scheduled. She seemed almost too laid back. Casually walked around the house. Went in the room Jennifer will sleep in (hopefully the night of January 24th!). There had been a serious question posed by the PO before her visit about allowing Jennifer to share a room with her 3 yr. old daughter. Once she saw the size of the room (not much smaller than a hotel room) she said she had no problem with them sharing it.
She was approved to come home (where she belongs). Her ex is here for the kids now but, must move (as we all figured) the day before she gets here.
You speak of these surprise visits. Have any of you known them to happen? If so how often? If so were there more of them towards the beginning than later on through the Parole? She said if she does well her nighttime curfew will be lifted at 3 months. Of course most of the problems Jennifer got into were at night. I am thinking maybe that part (the early release of curfew) could be a secret .
I have to do catch up with WVMom's posts. Thought her boy was about to be seen by the Board. I will ask (if it hasn't been answered, as I do catch up) but, I am pretty sure RSAT is a 3 month program. That is part of the 10% the Parole Organizer at Lakin says may hold Jennifer's release. The Board told her to seriously consider taking it last year when she was seen. For many reasons (I feel were sound) she chose not to do the RSAT. She has since completed all 3 of the ALADRUE classes. She has taken many college courses.
I have something to run by you..........since her Hearing is so close, can we guess that the Parole Organizer (forgot her title) at Lakin has seen all the reports from say the Prosecutor, Judge, Warden etc., already? Is that possibly why she is saying she has a 90% change of release? Maybe she has read the above people's approval of the release? I know the Board has the last word. I am just curious as to how she can be so certain of the 90%. Any thoughts?
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