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Old 01-01-2019, 12:19 PM
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Default Indigent Funds - do they have to be paid back?

Reading in the family services handbook, it says that if an inmate is without funds, they are limited to basic hygiene and correspondence items, BY CREATING A DEBIT ON THEIR ACCOUNT THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID BACK TO THE FACILITY.

Does this mean that if you claim indigent status, that those items are not FREE? LO thinks that they are, if they are not free, how does the facility recoup the costs?
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Reading in the family services handbook, it says that if an inmate is without funds, they are limited to basic hygiene and correspondence items, BY CREATING A DEBIT ON THEIR ACCOUNT THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID BACK TO THE FACILITY.

Does this mean that if you claim indigent status, that those items are not FREE? LO thinks that they are, if they are not free, how does the facility recoup the costs?
Found out from a friend who's been there, that it's all "free" until it gets time for you to get out, then they have you sign a paper that says you will pay back all that indigent money. You can be prosecuted for the money. Yikes! Gotta get a letter in the mail, immediately!
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It does become a debt and they will have to pay it back, especially if they go to work release.

DOC doesn't prosecute if they don't pay. Court ordered fines are up to the individual county if the offender doesn't pay.
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Turns out, lo knows about it being a bill you have to pay back. I'm thankful lo knows.
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So the government pays for them to be in prison, they have no $ to pay for basic necessities so the state then bills them for it when the get out? Something is backwards about that. If these people were out of prison wouldn't they just be able to collect food stamps or snap or whatever it's called if they were indigent and then not have to pay it back?
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So the government pays for them to be in prison, they have no $ to pay for basic necessities so the state then bills them for it when the get out? Something is backwards about that. If these people were out of prison wouldn't they just be able to collect food stamps or snap or whatever it's called if they were indigent and then not have to pay it back?
I'm explaining how the system works, not debating if it's fair or not.
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So the government pays for them to be in prison, they have no $ to pay for basic necessities so the state then bills them for it when the get out? Something is backwards about that. If these people were out of prison wouldn't they just be able to collect food stamps or snap or whatever it's called if they were indigent and then not have to pay it back?
As my LO has pointed out, if he has indigent status, think about all of the "fees" that he is NOT paying. He was in county jail 7 months and their fees are over the top. Wrong. Charge the inmate fees, charge their family fees, for any little bit of anything. Phone charges very high.
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As my LO has pointed out, if he has indigent status, think about all of the "fees" that he is NOT paying. He was in county jail 7 months and their fees are over the top. Wrong. Charge the inmate fees, charge their family fees, for any little bit of anything. Phone charges very high.
I guess this is just another one of the benefits of being in Federal Prison. They don't do that to the indigent and make them pay anything back.

Where they rip people off is phone charges as we all know it doesn't cost what they charge per minute to make a call, it doesn't charge per minute to use the "email" system or to print out something, and the vending machines are a ripoff. But in general, for an indigent, they do get certain things, and don't get a bill they have to pay when they are released.
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I'm explaining how the system works, not debating if it's fair or not.
Indeed! I think we can all agree that the system could use some fixing.

In the meantime, this is the system we have to work within, whether we like it or not. Better to understand the system than to find out (after getting in trouble) that we did something against the rules.
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I guess this is just another one of the benefits of being in Federal Prison. They don't do that to the indigent and make them pay anything back.

Where they rip people off is phone charges as we all know it doesn't cost what they charge per minute to make a call, it doesn't charge per minute to use the "email" system or to print out something, and the vending machines are a ripoff. But in general, for an indigent, they do get certain things, and don't get a bill they have to pay when they are released.
That's great treatment of the indigent inmate in a Federal Prison. I have always been told that to go to a Federal Prison was much worse than to a State Prison.
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That's great treatment of the indigent inmate in a Federal Prison. I have always been told that to go to a Federal Prison was much worse than to a State Prison.
For the most part you are likely right about Federal being worse than state. Of course if you're in a state prison you are more likely to be close to home and most state prisons do not make you serve as much time as federal does either. Federal also has their "sentencing guidelines" although they are leaving more and more up to the judges. For example though my husband's crime is being tried federally.... The DA is asking for about 5 yrs... He'll likely receive between 3.5 and 5 when sentenced. However, at the state level for the same crime odds are that he would receive probation.
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