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Old 05-08-2013, 09:56 AM
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This is more good news 5/7/13 http://sfbayview.com/2013/brown-can-...public-safety/
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The solutions are there! They just need to act on them!
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Im personally don't think they should release all those violent offenders but low risk lifers and non violent
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I don't think they are just releasing however allowing them to earn the good credits they currently do not let them earn. People do change and if they have worked hard even though they were told they would not get milestones that shows alot. And I believe in second chances
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I believe in second chances too I don't want to see a bunch of people released that clearly did something bad to be labeled violent when others who have done something not as serious or petty non violent stuff remain in there they need to do case by case
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The reality is the over served lifers who are low risk are the ones that can solve this mess. As well as other low risk inmates. Jerry Brown is unwilling to take the steps necessary to do this. Hopefully the court will do what needs done
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What is considered "low risk" to one isn't always to another so there needs to be equality and looking at case by case not just dismissing certain people because the title of the crime or charge.

I like this article writers point of view and I'm glad someone who has a wider voice is saying what we are all saying. I wonder if contacting a person like that and saying how the families involved feel and the impacts would help.
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I believe in second chances too I don't want to see a bunch of people released that clearly did something bad to be labeled violent when others who have done something not as serious or petty non violent stuff remain in there they need to do case by case
My man was involved in what was considered a very violent crime along with 3 other co-defendants. I do not condone his actions. I do however know him and knew him then. He is not the same person. He was 20 years old and on drugs. That was 15 years ago. I don't think releases should be based solely on the nature of the crime being a violent one. Everyone deserves to earn a 2nd chance
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That's fine I believe in ppl can change just saying they shouldn't concentrate on one group of ppl I can say this u let my cousin out he is not changed they should go by case by cases basis and look at history never said at actual crime each case is different just expressing opinion
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That's fine I believe in ppl can change just saying they shouldn't concentrate on one group of ppl I can say this u let my cousin out he is not changed they should go by case by cases basis and look at history never said at actual crime each case is different just expressing opinion
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What is considered "low risk" to one isn't always to another so there needs to be equality and looking at case by case not just dismissing certain people because the title of the crime or charge.

I like this article writers point of view and I'm glad someone who has a wider voice is saying what we are all saying. I wonder if contacting a person like that and saying how the families involved feel and the impacts would help.
They determine low risk based on the California Static Risk assessment. This is a tool used for all inmates. There is another risk assessment that is applied to sex offenders. As well lifers are given a psychological assessment that may or may not be applied to these court actions. The psychological assessment is used by the parole board to determine risk. The documentation from expert witness James Austen and others is based on the California static risk assessment and from information provided by the CDCR
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Yes, its a great article and I put up something very similar but still dont understand WHY The governor has complained that he cannot make changes in sentencing or good time credits without legislative approval – yet has “made no effort to seek the needed legislation,” the judges found. To achieve a prison system that enhances public safety and respects human dignity, he needs to begin that process now.


Someone please again, explain this to me like Im 9? Lol tysm
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Yes, its a great article and I put up something very similar but still dont understand WHY The governor has complained that he cannot make changes in sentencing or good time credits without legislative approval – yet has “made no effort to seek the needed legislation,” the judges found. To achieve a prison system that enhances public safety and respects human dignity, he needs to begin that process now.

Someone please again, explain this to me like Im 9? Lol tysm
I'm glad human dignity is mentioned because its a huge part of this.
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Does ANY ONE have any idea, just how long it would take to go case by case bases and then who decides WHO should be release a panel , like the parole panel or some outside source, this is going to be the most bizarre situation. If you are thinking that the CDCR is going to make that determinate ya better think again - They NEED MORE TIME!

I have been waiting for 20yrs, on this day and I know that some thing or some one is going blow!
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They should just make indeterminate into determinate. That would release all the over served guys. but now I'm getting crazy.
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They should just make indeterminate into determinate. That would release all the over served guys. but now I'm getting crazy.
I love that idea! But I wont be holding my breath.
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Does ANY ONE have any idea, just how long it would take to go case by case bases and then who decides WHO should be release a panel , like the parole panel or some outside source, this is going to be the most bizarre situation. If you are thinking that the CDCR is going to make that determinate ya better think again - They NEED MORE TIME!

I have been waiting for 20yrs, on this day and I know that some thing or some one is going blow!
The CDCR is blowing up. They have got all these issues and two valley prisons that in reality should be closed. What are they going to do with all these inmates?
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They are tryin to do nothing but scare the public they know what needs to be done. The party's over send our loved ones home they've done thier share work and go to school like u wanted so let em GO.
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Yes, I agree. The State is in a big big mess and something is going to have to give. I still think the judges are going to require something immediately. So many issues, AB109 and the nut cases that re commit, Mental Health System collapse, out of state inmates, overcrowding, preventable suicides, extended segregation issues and law suits, and Valley Fever. The Perfect Storm!!!
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Yes, I agree. The State is in a big big mess and something is going to have to give. I still think the judges are going to require something immediately. So many issues, AB109 and the nut cases that re commit, Mental Health System collapse, out of state inmates, overcrowding, preventable suicides, extended segregation issues and law suits, and Valley Fever. The Perfect Storm!!!
The perfect storm for sure and the same old denial that a problem exists. We can only hope tha the three panel judges see through the smoke and do something to make meaningful change.
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if I read correctly, would this reduce my husbands 80% to 60%?
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The specifics of the proposal would be 80% to 66%, provided they applied it to all 80% ers. The initial proposal only addresses bringing the limit to the ordered 137.5%, I believe. I need to go back and read it again. There is the logical thinking that in order to sustain that level, they would have to apply it to all currently in State Prison. Keep the faith!
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But the thing is that the governor has complained that he cannot make changes in sentencing or good time credits without legislative approval – yet has “made no effort to seek the needed legislation,” the judges found.

He really needs to get the show on the road.

How long is he still gonna be our no good for nothing governor? Cause I feel we need a new one. Ughs!
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Does ANY ONE have any idea, just how long it would take to go case by case bases and then who decides WHO should be release a panel , like the parole panel or some outside source, this is going to be the most bizarre situation. If you are thinking that the CDCR is going to make that determinate ya better think again - They NEED MORE TIME!

I have been waiting for 20yrs, on this day and I know that some thing or some one is going blow!
well from my understanding they only have until july to make that list
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