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More simple physics: The hotter air is, the less dense it is and the less efficient airfoils and control surfaces become.
So this is why the planes are grounded? Or did the FAA find a loophole for the equivalent of a teacher's snow day?
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apparently its a thing. I heard about it on radio today. Seems its mostly smaller planes.
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I was thinking that about her Wendy's comment. I mean, you do have the option of soup, salad or baked potato and a chilled dessert.
Nope. Take home is a must! Double cheeseburger with everything giant fries and diet coke!
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Open invitation to those living in the N, NE and midwestern states to flip the tables on us when winter rolls around and you're buried in snow and ice and we're in shorts. I have a feeling this thread will still be going.
HA! Iowa got an entire inch of snow this year. We wore shorts too!
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My ex husband once ordered a baconator plain with cheese...as he ordered all his burgers. It came out just the bun, patty and cheese.... Their face when he asked why the hell he would order a baconator if he didn't want any bacon was pretty special.
I find it extremely comforting to know that these are the people who will one day lead our country.
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Update: high temps ground planes and bees.

Went outside with the puppy to use the "facilities" and there are dead bees everywhere I look. I'm feeling quite blessed to be a non-flying thing right now.
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I met my neighbor at the mailbox so we could shoot the sh*t in 118 weather like all good neighbors do. She's lived here 15 years and said this is the first time they've stopped flights for heat. We decided that it's not necessarily the thermostat that created it but the recent deluge of dense, hot air. So much hot air.
Another flight planning factor that's taken into consideration in [high temperature/high humidity/high altitude] (computed to determine "density altitude") takeoff decisions is the requirement to have enough fuel aboard to reach an alternative landing site if diversion becomes necessary, plus 45 minutes additional fuel beyond that distance. Temperature, humidity and altitude inversely affect air density and thus, aircraft performance. Fuel weighs about 6.5 pounds per gallon. A plane may not be able to take off in "thin" air with enough fuel aboard to satisfy safety regulations.

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I find it extremely comforting to know that these are the people who will one day lead our country.
"Social promotions," trophies for showing up and an education system that indoctrinates rather than teaching is producing a generation of precious snowflakes; functionally illiterate perpetual adolescents incapable of independent thought who are triggered by anything resembling reality. God help us!
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So this is why the planes are grounded? Or did the FAA find a loophole for the equivalent of a teacher's snow day?
Groundings are extremely disruptive and expensive for airlines. Crew and equipment scheduling is tremendously complex. Airlines avoid grounding whenever possible.
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More simple physics: The hotter air is, the less dense it is and the less efficient airfoils and control surfaces become.
January 1990 I moved to Bozeman Montana. About a week after I arrived a "once in a decade" arctic blast came through.

Dead air temps in Bozeman 35 below, wind chill factor got colder than 50 below. Big Sky (45 miles away and higher elevation) dead air temps were 50 below and they were reporting wind chill factors of 70 and 80 below zero.

Lasted a week, it was unreal. And I'd just arrived from Southern California. They shut down the airport for a couple of days. Why?

I read in the paper the reason was tires. It was so cold rubber got too brittle. The concern was tires might shatter on landing.

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December of 08 Oklahoma had the big ice storm that shut everything down. I was on the first plane out after they got in the air again from Phoenix to OKC and had literally never seen anything like it in my life.
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January 1990 I moved to Bozeman Montana. About a week after I arrived a "once in a decade" arctic blast came through.

Dead air temps in Bozeman 35 below, wind chill factor got colder than 50 below. Big Sky (45 miles away and higher elevation) dead air temps were 50 below and they were reporting wind chill factors of 70 and 80 below zero.

Lasted a week, it was unreal. And I'd just arrived from Southern California. They shut down the airport for a couple of days. Why?

I read in the paper the reason was tires. It was so cold rubber got too brittle. The concern was tires might shatter on landing.

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Tires aren't the only thing affected adversely by extremely low temperatures. Metal becomes brittle and lubricants freeze and stop working.
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Many years ago I was on a train to Chicago that was THE LAST train in for the next 3 days. So cold that the track switches froze and some of the train components were snapping. Took hours to get into the station because they were hand-thawing the switches. Cars weren't particularly helpful, because there was a LOT of snow on the ground, too.

Thin about that while you are all baking at 119. Maybe it will help, lol.
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Good thing about AZ....amazing carne asada! I'm just over here working on my summer body....one delicious bite at a time!
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Door gunners in WWII B-17 bombers found their guns jammed when lubricants froze in the -40 degree cold at high altitude. The work-around; fire guns without lubricant until they failed.
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Good thing about AZ....amazing carne asada! I'm just over here working on my summer body....one delicious bite at a time!
I took all my rugs out and hung them on the fence, gave them a good hose-down. They'll be dry in about 45 mins. Ha! Thank you 105 winds!

There's a newish taco place down the road. Now you got me ready to take a little drive. They make asada fries.
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I took all my rugs out and hung them on the fence, gave them a good hose-down. They'll be dry in about 45 mins. Ha! Thank you 105 winds!
Yes! This is how we clean all kinds of stuff. The sun is a great natural disinfectant and deodorizer!
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apparently its a thing. I heard about it on radio today. Seems its mostly smaller planes.
I can tell you from experience that landing is no fun when contending with thermal updrafts. Summers coming in from the north at Bergstrom in a single-engine late in the summer afternoons are always interesting right as you cross over Highway 71...you literally feel the plane bump upwards. Same thing on rural strips (ie. Lockhart and Smithville) when the crops have been cut and you have the heat radiating up from the dirt.

Takeoffs at Giddings/Lee County were another fun learning experience since the runway had a substantial difference in elevation from one end to the other.
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The chunks in chunky pb are actually rat toenails - per my older cousins when I was 12yo. I know it's not true, but I just cannot make myself eat it!
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My supervisors unpopular opinion for today is that tropical storm Cindy is a GREAT excuse for a day off. He actually shared this unpopular opinion with me this morning when I called off for the day

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