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Old 08-04-2020, 07:48 AM
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As a European citizen I wanted to ask what difference there is between the classic prisoner uniform and the ANTI SUICIDE SMOCK
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:55 AM
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just check it out online, it's a whole different set-up and dressing....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suicide_smock

A "regular" prison uniform are pants/shirts for men/women... depending on the facility the color and made-up is different... my guy wears khakis and a grey shirt.
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Anti suicide smock is big, thick and usually green thick turtle suit from those who I have seen wear them vs. A regular uniform Green pants and a grey shirt. Or khaki pants and a grey shirt depends on custody classification
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the anti-suicide smock worn on the completely naked body?

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Anti suicide smock is big, thick and usually green thick turtle suit from those who I have seen wear them vs. A regular uniform Green pants and a grey shirt. Or khaki pants and a grey shirt depends on custody classification
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the anti-suicide smock worn on the completely naked body?
Yes. Commonly referred to as the Barney Rubble since it resembles his outfit.
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As a European citizen I wanted to ask what difference there is between the classic prisoner uniform and the ANTI SUICIDE SMOCK
Here are google images to what the smock looks like

https://www.google.com/search?q=Anti...w=1366&bih=626
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Yes. Commonly referred to as the Barney Rubble since it resembles his outfit.
Yes, because all belongings that could be used are removed from the room to ensure they are safe as possible.
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eh they just use this as an excuse to bum rush the cell, beat you, steal hair fibers, and make you sleep cold or naked on the metal bunk or on the floor with no toilet paper and frequently shut of the toilet and water. Its another manipulation, a fiction, on paper and real-life torture scenario. Sometimes they even trick you into taking medication you have never taken before. If they take you to a padded room, your ass is getting raped.
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Sometimes it can help save someone from using their clothing to fashion a loop to hang them selves from the door, bed frame...it can save a life. Or stop someone who hero’s swallowing items.
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Sometimes it can help save someone from using their clothing to fashion a loop to hang them selves from the door, bed frame...it can save a life. Or stop someone who hero’s swallowing items.

The only time a person tries to commit suicide is if they're being mistreated or bullied by other inmates or guards. Or if they have a discontinuation or break from their medication. We also know that there are a lot of murders in prison which are covered up and are called suicide to avert investigations. And finally the prison system is not the best place for anyone to be in as humans in general are social beings and being locked up in a jail cell 24 hours a day 7 days a week does fuck up with their mental health as it is. So lets not kid ourselves about trying to keep the prisoners safe by locking them up in a straight jacket and placing them in segregation for their safety and well being. Because that there is bullshit. I know that prison is a place for punishment and if you do the crime then you are required to do the time. But the time doesn't have to be inhumane treatment because all that does is makes the organization or system a criminal one inflicting pain on other criminals. just my two cents.
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The only time a person tries to commit suicide is if they're being mistreated or bullied by other inmates or guards. Or if they have a discontinuation or break from their medication. We also know that there are a lot of murders in prison which are covered up and are called suicide to avert investigations. And finally the prison system is not the best place for anyone to be in as humans in general are social beings and being locked up in a jail cell 24 hours a day 7 days a week does fuck up with their mental health as it is. So lets not kid ourselves about trying to keep the prisoners safe by locking them up in a straight jacket and placing them in segregation for their safety and well being. Because that there is bullshit. I know that prison is a place for punishment and if you do the crime then you are required to do the time. But the time doesn't have to be inhumane treatment because all that does is makes the organization or system a criminal one inflicting pain on other criminals. just my two cents.
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But the reasons humans commit suicide are never clear to us, only to those who make that ultimate choice, and in that moment. I’m sorry that anyone feels that is their best choice.

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Wow I am shocked that people actually think that the ONLY reason smocks are used is to abuse the patient esc. This is by far not true. If a patient say to us I want to hurt myself or kill myself. We must immediately place on suicide precautions for the patient safety. Most prisons that I have worked at take this serious. And I'll be Damm if I allow someone to make mockery of someone who could potentially harm themselves. I'm not saying all places are like this. But we also have our jobs on the line and not everyone is stupid enough to do these things in the comments. Furthermore, some people shout suicide to be removed from the block due to owed payments or some type of protection to be shipped. Let me tell you suicides do happen ALOT! Inmates who usually commit suicide are not even on suicide watch due to the fact that they really did not want anyone stopping them. Smocks are for the patients protection
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The only time a person tries to commit suicide is if they're being mistreated or bullied by other inmates or guards. Or if they have a discontinuation or break from their medication. We also know that there are a lot of murders in prison which are covered up and are called suicide to avert investigations. And finally the prison system is not the best place for anyone to be in as humans in general are social beings and being locked up in a jail cell 24 hours a day 7 days a week does fuck up with their mental health as it is. So lets not kid ourselves about trying to keep the prisoners safe by locking them up in a straight jacket and placing them in segregation for their safety and well being. Because that there is bullshit. I know that prison is a place for punishment and if you do the crime then you are required to do the time. But the time doesn't have to be inhumane treatment because all that does is makes the organization or system a criminal one inflicting pain on other criminals. just my two cents.
We will never know the true reason a person committed suicide unless they leave a suicide note or verbally expressed themselves. I take this situation serious because this is a human life we are speaking on. It isn't always related to being bullied or medication. At times it could be related to a person who is unable to cope with the lifestyle change. From having freedom to possibly never having any freedom again. From the feeling of being at the top of the world to being another number. At the end of the day we will never know.
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Wow I am shocked that people actually think that the ONLY reason smocks are used is to abuse the patient esc. This is by far not true. If a patient say to us I want to hurt myself or kill myself. We must immediately place on suicide precautions for the patient safety. Most prisons that I have worked at take this serious. And I'll be Damm if I allow someone to make mockery of someone who could potentially harm themselves. I'm not saying all places are like this. But we also have our jobs on the line and not everyone is stupid enough to do these things in the comments. Furthermore, some people shout suicide to be removed from the block due to owed payments or some type of protection to be shipped. Let me tell you suicides do happen ALOT! Inmates who usually commit suicide are not even on suicide watch due to the fact that they really did not want anyone stopping them. Smocks are for the patients protection

I agree with you and I was the inmate! Im saddened by some of the blanket statements; some of them sound ill informed, some sound tinged with bitterness.
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We will never know the true reason a person committed suicide unless they leave a suicide note or verbally expressed themselves. I take this situation serious because this is a human life we are speaking on. It isn't always related to being bullied or medication. At times it could be related to a person who is unable to cope with the lifestyle change. From having freedom to possibly never having any freedom again. From the feeling of being at the top of the world to being another number. At the end of the day we will never know.

I understand that bullying and non medication are not the only instances where a person could be suicidal. But honestly how being isolated in solitary confinement with no cloths and sleeping on a cold metal bed with no coverings or heat at night do any good for someones mental state? wouldn't the humane alternative be assessment and have a psychologist talk to the person or some type of treatment other than the jacket and solitary confinement?
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So that you know a psychologist is required to talk with the person in the initial 24 hours and a psychiatrist. They must reassess the patient to determine if suicide watch is warranted and than must document on the patient. Unless these individuals are falsifying documentation this is a must. If a person is on suicide precautions someone should be sitting watching them.
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I agree with you and I was the inmate! Im saddened by some of the blanket statements; some of them sound ill informed, some sound tinged with bitterness.
Exactly, I know some prisms may not be the best
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