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Old 11-12-2019, 01:09 AM
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Question Sentencing in 2 days - advice please!!

I'm getting sentenced on a federal case and a mandatory prison term is involved. I've been told by my attorney that the prosecutor is requesting immediate custody.

Do I have any chance of still being granted self surrender???

If I don't what is the process straight after sentencing? Will I get any time with my family?

What is the federal transport process like, is it as bad as they say? PLEASE BE HONEST.
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Self surrender is up to your sentencing judge, but having the AUSA arguing for an immediate remand to custody definitely doesn't help. Once its clear that you will be taken by the marshals, you will not be allowed to speak with your family. Be sure you only have what you want to take to prison with you when you enter the courtroom.

Transport to (eventually) your designated prison isn't fun, but some temporary stops along the way are much better than others. You will be able to call home from some of them, but not from others. The bop inmate locator will track your movements, but you won't know anything in advance of the actual trips.

The length of time it takes for you to get designated and moved to your home prison varies greatly too, the quicker the better, but you will have no control over that. Always remember that it will end,
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Self surrender is up to your sentencing judge, but having the AUSA arguing for an immediate remand to custody definitely doesn't help. Once its clear that you will be taken by the marshals, you will not be allowed to speak with your family. Be sure you only have what you want to take to prison with you when you enter the courtroom.

Transport to (eventually) your designated prison isn't fun, but some temporary stops along the way are much better than others. You will be able to call home from some of them, but not from others. The bop inmate locator will track your movements, but you won't know anything in advance of the actual trips.

The length of time it takes for you to get designated and moved to your home prison varies greatly too, the quicker the better, but you will have no control over that. Always remember that it will end,
Thanks for the advice? What is the typical length of time transport takes and do you know what sortt if restraints I will have to be in?
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Transport is generally jumpsuit, belly band, shackles, and handcuffs.

Dress courtroom appropriate, but leave your watch and most of the contents of your wallet with your family. Take out all piercings before you go to court. Do not wear anything you want to keep.
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Transport is generally jumpsuit, belly band, shackles, and handcuffs.

Dress courtroom appropriate, but leave your watch and most of the contents of your wallet with your family. Take out all piercings before you go to court. Do not wear anything you want to keep.
Will those restraints be uncomfortable and do you know how long I am likely to be in them for?
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My trip to my designated prison took over 6 months, with trips all over the country, including 6 intermediate stops. But i was a "special case" known as someone deserving diesel therapy punishment, so many folks are abused for less time than I was.

If you initially get sent to one of the bop "jails" FDC, MDC, etc., it should take about a month for you to be designated to your home prison by the office in Grand Prairie, Texas. After that, it is totally up to the bop transportation office to schedule your itinerary, by con air and/or by bus, but it probably won't be by the most direct means. Mine started out with county jails for a week, FDC Miami for 2 months, USP Atlanta for one month, Oklahoma City for 6 weeks, USP Lewisburg, PA for 3 weeks, and then finally on to Loretto, PA. Every leg of the trip will be done in handcuffs, leg irons and belly chains. If anyone feels like it, add the dreaded "black box" handcuff security device and being housed in the SHU at each intermediate stop along the way. The buses have a locked section in the back for a CO with a shotgun, the bus Lieutenant has a handgun. The Con Air US Marshals are all armed too.

Uncomfortable for sure, with or without the black box, especially during nature breaks. The leg irons were especially painful.
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My trip to my designated prison took over 6 months, with trips all over the country, including 6 intermediate stops. But i was a "special case" known as someone deserving diesel therapy punishment, so many folks are abused for less time than I was.

If you initially get sent to one of the bop "jails" FDC, MDC, etc., it should take about a month for you to be designated to your home prison by the office in Grand Prairie, Texas. After that, it is totally up to the bop transportation office to schedule your itinerary, by con air and/or by bus, but it probably won't be by the most direct means. Mine started out with county jails for a week, FDC Miami for 2 months, USP Atlanta for one month, Oklahoma City for 6 weeks, USP Lewisburg, PA for 3 weeks, and then finally on to Loretto, PA. Every leg of the trip will be done in handcuffs, leg irons and belly chains. If anyone feels like it, add the dreaded "black box" handcuff security device and being housed in the SHU at each intermediate stop along the way. The buses have a locked section in the back for a CO with a shotgun, the bus Lieutenant has a handgun. The Con Air US Marshals are all armed too.

Uncomfortable for sure, with or without the black box, especially during nature breaks. The leg irons were especially painful.
Shit, i'll just have to kick it straight I guess.
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If you wear glasses, make sure you have them with you in court. Otherwise you'll be waiting for months before you can get a new "prison pair", and believe me, they are basic at best. I had to wait 6 months after sentencing before I got a pair.
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My trip to my designated prison took over 6 months, with trips all over the country, including 6 intermediate stops. But i was a "special case" known as someone deserving diesel therapy punishment, so many folks are abused for less time than I was.

If you initially get sent to one of the bop "jails" FDC, MDC, etc., it should take about a month for you to be designated to your home prison by the office in Grand Prairie, Texas. After that, it is totally up to the bop transportation office to schedule your itinerary, by con air and/or by bus, but it probably won't be by the most direct means. Mine started out with county jails for a week, FDC Miami for 2 months, USP Atlanta for one month, Oklahoma City for 6 weeks, USP Lewisburg, PA for 3 weeks, and then finally on to Loretto, PA. Every leg of the trip will be done in handcuffs, leg irons and belly chains. If anyone feels like it, add the dreaded "black box" handcuff security device and being housed in the SHU at each intermediate stop along the way. The buses have a locked section in the back for a CO with a shotgun, the bus Lieutenant has a handgun. The Con Air US Marshals are all armed too.

Uncomfortable for sure, with or without the black box, especially during nature breaks. The leg irons were especially painful.

Similar to my trip. County for 3 weeks, then 18-hour day transported to airport in another state, flown "Con Air" to OKC. Spent 2-1/2 weeks there during the 2013 Boston Marathon Bombing, then flown to PA, 3 days at Canaan, and then onto Loretto. 6-1/2 weeks in total from sentencing to Loretto. I was fortunate enough not to have the "black box".


Interesting thing - the friend of the boys that did the Boston Marathon bombing got 3 years and did his stint at Loretto when I was there.
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Michael ~ I don't have much to add since I have never been to prison, but I know that so many are going through this every day, and you can do it, just like they can. I wish you all the best!
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I'm getting sentenced on a federal case and a mandatory prison term is involved. I've been told by my attorney that the prosecutor is requesting immediate custody.

Do I have any chance of still being granted self surrender???

If I don't what is the process straight after sentencing? Will I get any time with my family?

What is the federal transport process like, is it as bad as they say? PLEASE BE HONEST.
Have you done a POA and got your financial matters set up to be taken care of?
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This will pass. I was where you were at in 2013. Now, this is all a distant memory. For you, soon it will be as well.

Keep you chin up. Dont offer any information to others. Mind your own business. Whatever term the judge has in mind - dont complain. Just do your time and look forward to the day this too will pass.
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I fear the OP did indeed get taken in at sentencing so is unable to read here.

At least now his time counts towards his sentence.
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I fear the OP did indeed get taken in at sentencing so is unable to read here.

At least now his time counts towards his sentence.
That's too bad. Hopefully it went as good as possible. Sometimes waiting is the worst part. I hope his time is short and goes quick as possible.
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Just be sure your attorney requests and argues (no issues on pretrial release, family support, etc.) for self surrender! It’s always up to the judge, and the prosecutors almost always argue for immediate custody. The upside of the downside of immediate custody is that your sentence starts getting shorter that day. Best of luck, and just always know that you can survive whatever comes your way.
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I was granted self surrender everyone. The bad part is my sentence is longer than I was hoping for. Pretty devastated.
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Sorry about your sentence. but the only way to appreciate how fortunate you are to have avoided an immediate remand to custody would be if you weren't allowed to self surrender. Keep reminding yourself that this will end, and you will go home again.
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I was granted self surrender everyone. The bad part is my sentence is longer than I was hoping for. Pretty devastated.
Sorry to hear. At least you can plan, and this too shall pass. Best of luck to you.
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