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Old 02-29-2008, 04:51 PM
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It has been brought to my attention by a PTO member who is currently on Supervised Release, that his PO has informed him that posting on PTO is a violation of the "No Contact With Felons" restriction while on SR.

While I believe this may be an individual decision by this particular PO and may very well have something to do with this individuals charges, I would urge anyone on SR to double check with your PO's to make sure participation on PTO does not violate your SR reastrictions.
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:35 PM
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With 1 in 100 persons going to jail it is going to be very difficult not to have contact in daily life with someone who has been a felon. Seems a little absurb that posting a comment is having contact with a felon. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:47 PM
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Hmmmm, I'd like to hear Fed-X's take on this....wasn't he on SR when he started this site?
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LOL Dont shoot the messenger. It's probably not a problem with most PO's but better safe than sorry
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:08 PM
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Thats just too "REDICULIOUS" but look who we are dealing with here ........just my 2 cents
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:28 AM
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How's the P.O. going to prove that anyone on PTO is a convicted felon on supervision? People lie all the time on the internet - especially when it's "anonymous." I know - better to be safe than sorry cause fighting it from the inside would not be fun. But what a bunch of BS by the P.O. I'd like to see the P.O. define "contact" or "association." PTO is like a big mall with strangers passing through.
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I would imagine if they stretched it really far, answering a post or pm'ing could be considered contact.
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O: were there extenuating circumstances regarding intensive supervision/internet use in the restriction. I think there aren't many circumstances where a PO would be interested in internet use other than using a computer to commit the crime.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:57 PM
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I would imagine if they stretched it really far, answering a post or pm'ing could be considered contact.
And this they do very well S-T-R-E-T-C-H it as far as they need to!!
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thanks for the head's up
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what if the person just posted on the welcome home from federal prison forum is that a violation as well? just wondering?
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It shouldnt be. It may not even be a violation in every case.
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So my question, do you let your PO know once you are back that you want to post on here as you were a member prior to incarceration?
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All I can tell you is what I would do. I would ask.
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I'm on supervised release and my house arrest is almost over. But my PO is totally awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His office is over an hour away and I got away with not wearing the ankle bracelet and so he drives out here every other week to say hi and see if i'm home. When he calls me it's always after 7:15pm, which he told me he'd be calling me at that time. Anytime I want to do anything or go anywhere he allows it. He hasn't even told me no yet. When I was in the stage of getting a divorce (which I'm dismissing) I went on a date and to the bar and to the bowling alley! Ya, my PO rocks....
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It all depends on the PO some don't trip others will be on you like white in rice. Also if your provisions say no internet accsess then they will violate you after alot of things they might find and throw that in there. Alot of shit they let slide cuz they are told to make decsions without going to court on some bs. My PO told me that. They are suppose to take care of things that they file but never get back too.
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Did you ask your PO specifically about PrisonTalk then?
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With 1 in 100 persons going to jail it is going to be very difficult not to have contact in daily life with someone who has been a felon. Seems a little absurb that posting a comment is having contact with a felon. Just my opinion.
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Hello. My fiance will be going to the halfway house in a few weeks. He said there are certain things we cannot have on the house phone and I have been getting different answers from everyone. Any advice??
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Around here the line needs to basically be dedicated to receiving the signal for house arrest, so features such as call waiting and internet/DSL are not allowed, If you have basic service that will be fine. most people get a line just for that purpose.
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In response to the No Contact with Felons post. The best advice is to ask your PO what "no contact with felons" mean.

Different officers may interpret it differently.

How I explain it when reading / explaining conditions, is that the Court takes the position that they know who they associate with on a regular basis. If I have an agent call me up and says your person and this felon have been seen together and their up to something, or these guys knew each other in prison and their hooking up again, that's quite a different story than a person who runs into someone on the street that is a felon and says hi and bye and leaves it at that. If someone at work has a felony record, we expect them not to associate with them after work. And, of course the person can always ask me as to whether or not I would give them permission to associate. Times I have approved the association has been when it's a close immediate family member such as a brother that is also a felon or perhaps someone who had a felony from a long time ago and since then has had a clean record.

If permission was asked and the felon hasn't had a violent felony or other felony conviction/arrest in a long time, then I might approve of their association after meeting the person and being convinced that their association would be positive.

In regards to a PO stating that posting on PTO is a violation of the felon association...I think he/she would have a hard time convincing a Judge of that. If the posts on the site were advocating criminal activity and sharing say social security numbers with each other, then yes that would be a violation of association if the officer could prove that the other person was a felon.

However, posts that are on PTO asking clarification as to conditions etc. I would not view as being felon association. I would view this no more different than talking with another felon in the probation office hallway while you're waiting to see your officer. Sure you're talking, but you're not "associating" with the intent or purpose to commit crimes.

However, if you took it one step further and started privately emailing, telephoning or seeing felons that you met on PTO, then that would be a potential violation if you hadn't sought permission for such an association. But again, I would not view the initial contact on PTO as being violation but any unapproved association outside of PTO would be a violation.

Best advise though, is when in doubt ask your PO for clarification. If it still doesn't make sense then ask if the two of you can discuss it with their supervisor (not in a confrontational way but simply for clarification).
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I forgot the PTO members username but isnt there a Ferderal PO online @ PTO?
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I feel stupid for not looking at the last post..sORRY, that member was a PO lol
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Well, just another way of the federal ppl stickin it to us ...so stupid but I rather be safe than sorry tho dont want to screw up the SR and he will be gone again....just anything to stick to ya....just INSANE!!!!!!
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Is it a problem if wives of federal inmates continue to have contact by emails and occasional phone calls with each other while their husbands are on SR?
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