Welcome to the Prison Talk Online Community! Take a Minute and Sign Up Today!






Go Back   Prison Talk > U.S. REGIONAL FORUMS > CALIFORNIA > California Prison & Criminal Justice News & Events + 3 Strikes
Register Entertainment FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

California Prison & Criminal Justice News & Events + 3 Strikes Do you have news relating to California's Prison or Ciminal Justice System and related efforts? Post them here! Also discuss 3 Strike laws.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-01-2018, 11:02 AM
Luv0fHisLife's Avatar
Luv0fHisLife Luv0fHisLife is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Beautiful So. Cal
Posts: 4,965
Thanks: 1,396
Thanked 948 Times in 696 Posts
Default Bill Passes Senate Allowing Judges to Strike Sentence Enhancement for Prior

Does anyone have any additional info on this?

http://sd30.senate.ca.gov/news/news/...trike-sentence
__________________
Somos Dos Almas
Que Estan
Firmemente Enamorados

Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Luv0fHisLife For This Useful Post:
gvalliant (06-01-2018)
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 06-01-2018, 11:38 AM
miamac's Avatar
miamac miamac is online now
Site Moderator Gone Mad

Staff Superstar Winner PTO Site Moderator 

 

Join Date: May 2013
Location: ORnativeAZresCAtied
Posts: 9,652
Thanks: 12,601
Thanked 18,069 Times in 6,586 Posts
Default

I'm on a quick break, but here is the bill text. I'm assuming it lifts the mandate that requires a judge to impose the enhancement, but leaves it at their discretion. I am not aware if this is retroactive. I'll read it when I get back this afternoon.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to miamac For This Useful Post:
Luv0fHisLife (06-01-2018), mariamrod21 (06-06-2018)
  #3  
Old 06-01-2018, 11:45 AM
Luv0fHisLife's Avatar
Luv0fHisLife Luv0fHisLife is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Beautiful So. Cal
Posts: 4,965
Thanks: 1,396
Thanked 948 Times in 696 Posts
Default

Thank you Miamac, have a great rest of your day. I'll wait for your response.

Quote:
Originally Posted by miamac View Post
I'm on a quick break, but here is the bill text. I'm assuming it lifts the mandate that requires a judge to impose the enhancement, but leaves it at their discretion. I am not aware if this is retroactive. I'll read it when I get back this afternoon.
__________________
Somos Dos Almas
Que Estan
Firmemente Enamorados

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-01-2018, 12:23 PM
gvalliant gvalliant is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Costa Mesa, California, USA
Posts: 511
Thanks: 897
Thanked 1,020 Times in 425 Posts
Default

Looking at it, judges (the court) has always been able to strike or dismiss enhancement for priors on non-serious crimes. They were unable to strike prior enhancement for serious and violent crimes.

This changes that restriction allowing judges to strike or dismiss priors for serious and violent crimes also.

It passed Senate 25 to 14. Now it goes to Assembly hearings. Assembly is a little more Conservative and tougher to get bills like this through. Need to follow it's progress in the next 1 to 2 months. That will tell.

I don't see anything making it retroactive.

Last edited by gvalliant; 06-01-2018 at 12:27 PM.. Reason: format
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to gvalliant For This Useful Post:
Luv0fHisLife (06-01-2018), miamac (06-02-2018), Sarianna (06-02-2018)
  #5  
Old 06-02-2018, 11:56 AM
miamac's Avatar
miamac miamac is online now
Site Moderator Gone Mad

Staff Superstar Winner PTO Site Moderator 

 

Join Date: May 2013
Location: ORnativeAZresCAtied
Posts: 9,652
Thanks: 12,601
Thanked 18,069 Times in 6,586 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv0fHisLife View Post
Thank you Miamac, have a great rest of your day. I'll wait for your response.
Things are a little messy here, I still haven't read the text. But gvalliant is well-informed and his assessment makes perfect sense to me. It mirrors what other enhancement bills have done.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to miamac For This Useful Post:
Sarianna (06-02-2018)
  #6  
Old 06-02-2018, 09:29 PM
missingmybrat missingmybrat is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: California
Posts: 80
Thanks: 1
Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by miamac View Post
Things are a little messy here, I still haven't read the text. But gvalliant is well-informed and his assessment makes perfect sense to me. It mirrors what other enhancement bills have done.
I hope things get better for you miamac. Tale care!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to missingmybrat For This Useful Post:
miamac (06-03-2018)
  #7  
Old 06-06-2018, 06:02 PM
JustLilOlMe1012 JustLilOlMe1012 is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 39
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Red face 3 strikes law

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv0fHisLife View Post
Does anyone have any additional info on this?

http://sd30.senate.ca.gov/news/news/...trike-sentence
When I spoke with my BF this morning, he mentioned that he heard something about this. One thing it appears to do is remove the crimes of burglary and robbery that don't result in significant injury would no longer be classified as VIOLENT felonies. Here is the link

https://ballotpedia.org/California_C...itiative_(2018)

This could be good for a lot of people
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-06-2018, 06:04 PM
miamac's Avatar
miamac miamac is online now
Site Moderator Gone Mad

Staff Superstar Winner PTO Site Moderator 

 

Join Date: May 2013
Location: ORnativeAZresCAtied
Posts: 9,652
Thanks: 12,601
Thanked 18,069 Times in 6,586 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLilOlMe1012 View Post
This could be good for a lot of people
...going forward, right? This bill does not include retroactive sentencing as far as I understand.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to miamac For This Useful Post:
Patrickj (06-06-2018)
  #9  
Old 06-06-2018, 07:30 PM
Patrickj's Avatar
Patrickj Patrickj is offline
Moderator

PTO Moderator 

 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atwater CA. USA.
Posts: 2,517
Thanks: 2,057
Thanked 2,112 Times in 968 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLilOlMe1012 View Post
When I spoke with my BF this morning, he mentioned that he heard something about this. One thing it appears to do is remove the crimes of burglary and robbery that don't result in significant injury would no longer be classified as VIOLENT felonies. Here is the link

https://ballotpedia.org/California_C...itiative_(2018)

This could be good for a lot of people

. Please read the definition of robbery in the penal code https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...er=4.&article=CHAPTER 4. Robbery [211 - 215] As long as the words Free Will and fear remain in the definition(CA. PC. 211) Until they redefine CA. PC.211 &212 robbery will still be a violent offense. The key word in section 212 is ]fear. You use a weapon in the commission of a robbery changes the whole game.
SB-1393 Sentencing . What the Bill says as of today. No where in this Bill is it retroactive
__________________
Be a friend to everyone,never know when you may need their help

Last edited by Patrickj; 06-06-2018 at 07:44 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Patrickj For This Useful Post:
gvalliant (06-07-2018), JustLilOlMe1012 (06-06-2018)
  #10  
Old 06-06-2018, 07:54 PM
JustLilOlMe1012 JustLilOlMe1012 is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 39
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Looks like more reading to do

Last edited by JustLilOlMe1012; 06-06-2018 at 07:59 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JustLilOlMe1012 For This Useful Post:
Patrickj (06-06-2018)
  #11  
Old 06-06-2018, 08:11 PM
Patrickj's Avatar
Patrickj Patrickj is offline
Moderator

PTO Moderator 

 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atwater CA. USA.
Posts: 2,517
Thanks: 2,057
Thanked 2,112 Times in 968 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLilOlMe1012 View Post
Looks like more reading to do

I always get any information on all new legislation from here California Legislative InformationYou can also contact the authors of the legislation also through this site. If you support or oppose their Bill
__________________
Be a friend to everyone,never know when you may need their help
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Patrickj For This Useful Post:
Hurley123 (07-12-2018), JustLilOlMe1012 (06-08-2018)
  #12  
Old 06-18-2018, 01:45 PM
sarita88 sarita88 is offline
Registered User
Donation Award 
 

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 113
Thanks: 1
Thanked 66 Times in 50 Posts
Default

The bill removing burglary and robbery without injury from the list of violent felonies didn't get enough signature in time to make it on the ballot. They hope to get it on the 2020 ballot.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to sarita88 For This Useful Post:
JustLilOlMe1012 (06-18-2018)
  #13  
Old 06-18-2018, 06:56 PM
JustLilOlMe1012 JustLilOlMe1012 is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 39
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarita88 View Post
The bill removing burglary and robbery without injury from the list of violent felonies didn't get enough signature in time to make it on the ballot. They hope to get it on the 2020 ballot.
So disappointed, but I didn't learn of it until this weekend
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-11-2018, 03:06 PM
ALWAYS HERE 4 M's Avatar
ALWAYS HERE 4 M ALWAYS HERE 4 M is offline
Still loving my hubby...
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California, USA
Posts: 4,786
Thanks: 1,950
Thanked 1,639 Times in 1,187 Posts
Default

Does anyone know the status of this bill? Has it passed? Is it retroactive? Any inofrmation is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-11-2018, 08:35 PM
JustLilOlMe1012 JustLilOlMe1012 is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 39
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALWAYS HERE 4 M View Post
Does anyone know the status of this bill? Has it passed? Is it retroactive? Any inofrmation is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
SB-1393 did not have enough signatures to go on ballot
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JustLilOlMe1012 For This Useful Post:
ALWAYS HERE 4 M (07-12-2018)
  #16  
Old 07-12-2018, 10:37 AM
ALWAYS HERE 4 M's Avatar
ALWAYS HERE 4 M ALWAYS HERE 4 M is offline
Still loving my hubby...
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California, USA
Posts: 4,786
Thanks: 1,950
Thanked 1,639 Times in 1,187 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLilOlMe1012 View Post
SB-1393 did not have enough signatures to go on ballot
Thank you!

Can someone please explain the difference between SB1279 and SB1393? And if possible the status of SB1279? Im sorry the wording is confusing to me to say the least.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01720180SB1393

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01720180SB1279
__________________



Last edited by ALWAYS HERE 4 M; 07-12-2018 at 10:44 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-12-2018, 07:58 PM
JustLilOlMe1012 JustLilOlMe1012 is offline
Registered User
 

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: CA, USA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 39
Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Confusing to me too. There are people here that know this stuff like the back of their hand
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALWAYS HERE 4 M View Post
Thank you!

Can someone please explain the difference between SB1279 and SB1393? And if possible the status of SB1279? Im sorry the wording is confusing to me to say the least.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01720180SB1393

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01720180SB1279
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-12-2018, 08:44 PM
Patrickj's Avatar
Patrickj Patrickj is offline
Moderator

PTO Moderator 

 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atwater CA. USA.
Posts: 2,517
Thanks: 2,057
Thanked 2,112 Times in 968 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLilOlMe1012 View Post
Confusing to me too. There are people here that know this stuff like the back of their hand
I will review both of these Bills later tonight and give you my on them tomorrow
I have been busy trying to catch up things

__________________
Be a friend to everyone,never know when you may need their help

Last edited by Patrickj; 07-12-2018 at 08:47 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Patrickj For This Useful Post:
JustLilOlMe1012 (07-12-2018), Luv0fHisLife (07-13-2018), Sarianna (07-13-2018)
  #19  
Old Yesterday, 03:55 PM
Patrickj's Avatar
Patrickj Patrickj is offline
Moderator

PTO Moderator 

 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atwater CA. USA.
Posts: 2,517
Thanks: 2,057
Thanked 2,112 Times in 968 Posts
Default

Yes I am slow I went through SB 1279 did my best to make it understandable What I did was just took Bill SB1279 and highlighted it and also put stick notes on each section I started on page 3 that is where the amended part starts Read the attachment Any questions after reviewing ask. I will work on SB1393 next
Attached Files
File Type: pdf 20170SB1279_97 with highlights.pdf (183.3 KB, 3 views)
__________________
Be a friend to everyone,never know when you may need their help
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Patrickj For This Useful Post:
JustLilOlMe1012 (Yesterday)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Senate passes appropriations bill with $6.6 billion for BOP Zelda50 Federal System News, Events and Legal Issues 0 11-02-2011 11:14 AM
Senate passes Bill SpicaRigel Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered People in Prison 9 12-17-2009 08:32 PM
US Senate Passes Bill Allowing Cellphone-Jamming In Prisons kima California Prison & Criminal Justice News & Events + 3 Strikes 7 10-07-2009 08:58 AM
Senate Passes Stop Gap Bill SB40 Morris1 California Prison & Criminal Justice News & Events + 3 Strikes 3 03-28-2007 08:32 PM
Article:California assembly passes bill allowing distribution of condoms in prisons California Sunshine California Prison & Criminal Justice News & Events + 3 Strikes 0 06-04-2005 11:00 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:04 PM.
Copyright © 2001- 2017 Prison Talk Online
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Website Design & Custom vBulletin Skins by: Relivo Media
Message Board Statistics