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Old 03-23-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Granholm's Budget Deal

On Granholm's web site there is a pdf file that lists the specific cuts in corrections that was issued today. You need Adobe reader to view it.
Here is a link to that file and Corrections is in section 7

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/EO7_119891_7.pdf

If anyone cant figure out how to view it, pm me and I will help you out or convert it for you
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OMG $1,698,200 was CUT from hospital and specialty care services. They don't do enough already for out guys that et injured or are sick

Thanks witchlin for sharing.

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Wow its amazing to see how much the budget of some of the prisons is being cut. Now you know outside of the inmates alot of the low end employees will be directly affected by these cuts as well!
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Some of you are having problems viewing this so here is the corrections cuts

Department of Corrections Reductions

Appropriation Number - Item - Reduction Amount

01050 Executive direction 235,900
01070 Human resources 392,600
02072 Training 368,100
03112 Worker's compensation 1,600,000
02070 Administrative services 217,800
22250 Field operations 3,592,800
24300 Electronic monitoring center 1,705,900
25280 Corrections centers 318,100
19335 Community corrections comprehensive plans and services 95,000
19337 Public education and training 16,000
16380 Health care administration 78,200
16381 Hospital and specialty care services 1,698,200
29507 Correctional facilities administration 183,300
46002 Alger maximum correctional facility - Munising 4,400
47002 Baraga maximum correctional facility - Baraga 5,600
49002 Chippewa correctional facility - Kincheloe 135,500
50002 Kinross correctional facility - Kincheloe 12,500
51002 Marquette branch prison - Marquette 1,049,800
54002 Newberry correctional facility - Newberry 5,900
52002 Oaks correctional facility - Eastlake 742,900
55002 Ojibway correctional facility - Marenisco 499,500
56002 Pugsley correctional facility - Kingsley 4,900
83002 Saginaw correctional facility - Freeland 7,600
53002 Standish maximum correctional facility - Standish 5,700
35002 Cooper Street correctional facility - Jackson 7,000
36002 G. Robert Cotton correctional facility - Jackson 8,900
32002 Charles E. Egeler correctional facility - Jackson 10,600
79002 Gus Harrison correctional facility - Adrian 10,800
89002 Macomb correctional facility - New Haven 6,300
87002 Mound correctional facility - Detroit 750,400
34002 Parnall correctional facility - Jackson 6,700
86002 Ryan correctional facility - Detroit 275,700
82002 Robert Scott correctional facility - Plymouth 4,500
33002 Southern Michigan correctional facility - Jackson 7,600
80002 Thumb correctional facility - Lapeer 1,369,200
23322 Special alternative incarceration program - Cassidy Lake 2,100
30522 Jackson area support and services - Jackson 720,900
67002 Bellamy Creek correctional facility - Ionia 593,100
72002 Earnest C. Brooks correctional facility - Muskegon 36,100
48002 Carson City correctional facility - Carson City 847,800
61002 Richard A. Handlon correctional facility - Ionia 6,800
62002 Ionia maximum correctional facility - Ionia 3,400
77002 Lakeland correctional facility - Coldwater 14,500
66002 Muskegon correctional facility - Muskegon 66,000
70002 Pine River correctional facility - St. Louis 54,600
64002 Riverside correctional facility - Ionia 207,600
69002 St. Louis correctional facility - St. Louis 49,100
05083 Information technology services and projects 967,900

Total cuts - 19,003,800
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You know this is worse than it appears if you think about it; they are packing in more prisoners beds and now have less money to manage a larger population all at the same time.

Smells like a rumbling concoction of trouble brewing down below and the strained seams will only hold for so long especially stretching them this hard.
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The facilities with the biggest cuts must be doing some major changes. The tether program is getting a major cut too. Aren't some of the bigger cuts at higher security facilities?
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03112 Worker's compensation 1,600,000
How can they cut workmans comp? I wonder if they are going to deny staff injury claims or cut out limited duty?

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what happened to utilizing this more as an alternative to prison time? How can they cut something they are supposedly going to use MORE??

The cuts in medical concern me... IMHO it means less emergency and long term care - unless they are really going to parole some of the inmates who have serious, expensive medical conditions.
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Although I haven't checked it out, the prisons with what show the biggest cuts "on paper" I believe are the ones they are closing, i.e. big cuts and savings.
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How can they cut workmans comp? I wonder if they are going to deny staff injury claims or cut out limited duty?
The state probably changed insurance companies. I work within a budget and one of the things that I had to do last year was to "insurance shop". Once I found a company with lower rates it showed on my budget much like the states...as a cut. There are also other ways that you can get your premiums dropped as well...most companies offer incentives for proving you are within OSHA guidelines...there are also many classes (recomended by OSHA) that your employees can take that will lower rates.

They are also closing facilities...saying that the employees will be transferred to other places...I don't believe that one for a minute...and I also believe that many of those people won't take a transfer. So...fewer employees...lower work comp rates.

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and I also believe that many of those people won't take a transfer.
The pay and benefits here in Michigan are quite good and long time state employees in some agencies are used to transferring...many of them will transfer and either move or car pool. Its not uncommon for a state employee to drive 50-100 miles one way to work!

Additionally, they won't get unemployment insurance if they refuse a transfer - I"m not exactly sure of what the distance is, but when I was still working I believe it was 75 or 100 miles one day. I'm NOT sure if any of those employees will be eligible for an early retirement under the closure rules, but that may fall into play as well.
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As far as them closing prisons with the big cuts, I dont think they are, Thumb for example has a big cut (1.3 million) and I can't imagine it closing. They are overflowed there now as it is with lower level guys housed in the higher level wing. When James was there last year they were tight on the budget and it was an excuse that was given to him for a few things, I have no idea how they will manage that big of a cut there or anywhere for that matter.

As far as the electronic monitoring, that just floors me, that is in place in order to get some of the guys out of the prisons so they can free up beds isnt it ? Are they just trying to make the budget look good at the end of the year ? How often does a governor go up for re-election in the states ? I was only wondering if next year was an election year and a balanced budget would look good because they may be thinking that very few will care what is happening in the prisons at least in the short term.

I think they started paroling guys last summer with expensive medical procedures waiting. That is how James was paroled I'm certain of it, he should never have gotten parole at all, sorry to say and it was a big shocker that he did. He was suppose to get a radiation treatment to kill off his thyroid glands that requires 10-12 days in isolation in hospital, plus he is on costly meds, they kept delaying it and then suddenly he was paroled, they had him out the door two weeks after the parole hearing, neither of us could believe it. That to me was MDOC clearing out expensive prisoners. Now they have to pay for it whether they like it or not cause he's back there.
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Although I haven't checked it out, the prisons with what show the biggest cuts "on paper" I believe are the ones they are closing, i.e. big cuts and savings.
A couple facilities like Marquette and Thumb are getting over a million $$'s cut. They are not closing. From my understanding, only a few camps are closing.

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Aren't these the people who overlook Parole and Probation? I thought they were hiring more so more wouldn't be put in prison? This is a HUGE cut to an already strapped area that is supposedly going to be overlooking more cases

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Once again, I'm floored. My guy's facility is being cut $207,600. They are also bringing in more guys. They have already cut calories. I guess that means his hopes of getting a horticulture class are null and void. I can't believe they cut the tether program. Their cuts will cost more in the end because our non-violent prisons are going to boil over with crowding, nothing to do, no training, less supervision,etc. Also, not educating them for anything & not giving proper medical care means recidivism to me. That coupled with some of the other steps taken by our "beloved" legislature leads me to think that a qualification for membership in it is complete insanity & total selfishness.
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This is sick. They're not only cutting things like healthcare and community programs for corrections but cutting tons in education for community colleges and universities, tons for health care and substance abuse and mental health and medicaid.... Even things like child care licencing and oversite are being cut by lots....

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I was wondering if this was the correct link: near the beginning it says ~ Whereas, it appears that actual revenues for the fiscal period beginning October 1, 2004 ending September 30, 2005 will fall below.......dated & signed at the end on 3-23-05.
Did I end up in the wrong place and not find the current fiscal year ????
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This thread was started in 2005 and is very old.
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I was wondering if this was the correct link: near the beginning it says ~ Whereas, it appears that actual revenues for the fiscal period beginning October 1, 2004 ending September 30, 2005 will fall below.......dated & signed at the end on 3-23-05.
Did I end up in the wrong place and not find the current fiscal year ????

Are you looking for the FY2009-10 budget for corrections? http://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/p...10.PDF#page=76
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Thanks Lion's Heart and RAJustice - my fault for not looking at the date on the original post !
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[quote=witchlinblue;1066147]On Granholm's web site there is a pdf file that lists the specific cuts in corrections that was issued today.


Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I can tell, this Executive Order was issued in 2005, not this year.
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