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Old 01-18-2019, 11:44 PM
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*admin delete if not ok* So I was just wondering I was reading an article that in the US it’s illegal for inmates to masturbate. This seems insane to me and how could that be enforced? And that inmates that are caught can be punished? Also in some scenarios like in a prison with an open dorm setting with open showers (no curtain or cubicle) how is it possible to actually possible to have enough privacy to do it. Like I wonder is there an etiquette around it? I don’t think people would beat each other up over it? I got mad a while back and asked my guy to return some (sexy) photos I sent him to me and they all looked very slightly bent/with a thumb indentation on the same side/place on all the photos so it looks like he had some good use out of them lol. So I don’t know this is something that baffles me about our prison system how something like masturbation not involving any other inmate or guard or whatever could be punished. I wonder how inmates get away with it. I have not asked him I would do that outside of prison. So I’m just curious

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I’ve had a few friends do time. General consensus if they have cell mates, wait until they’re snoring. Where my man is their showers are cubicles with doors, so the fapping is done in there lol.
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As for enforcement-- writeups usually occur when it's done in full view of an officer/another inmate or used as a means of attention-seeking or to threaten/intimidate. There have been times that female officers on my husband's yard were known for being unreasonable about nudity, meaning if they were in their cell taking a bird bath at their sink and she walked by, they could be written up over it. He's learned to shower and bird bath in his boxers because of those handful of people. But for the most part where he's at, there's an allowance for covering a window briefly while you bathe or hanging your towel over the door to the shower so it mostly covers what is visible.

As for other means of privacy, I suppose it's like anything else in life that requires a learning curve or go without.
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As for enforcement-- writeups usually occur when it's done in full view of an officer/another inmate or used as a means of attention-seeking or to threaten/intimidate. There have been times that female officers on my husband's yard were known for being unreasonable about nudity, meaning if they were in their cell taking a bird bath at their sink and she walked by, they could be written up over it. He's learned to shower and bird bath in his boxers because of those handful of people. But for the most part where he's at, there's an allowance for covering a window briefly while you bathe or hanging your towel over the door to the shower so it mostly covers what is visible.

As for other means of privacy, I suppose it's like anything else in life that requires a learning curve or go without.
Oh ok that’s good information as far as the write ups etc I guess depends who the guard is. The other stuff like if it’s deliberately in front of anyone especially like a female guard that makes sense that should be punished. Sort of like sexual harassment but more than that. But with an open dorm and open showers I guess as you said learning curve. It just seems dehumanizing in a way but I guess that’s what prison does
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Oh ok that’s good information as far as the write ups etc I guess depends who the guard is. The other stuff like if it’s deliberately in front of anyone especially like a female guard that makes sense that should be punished. Sort of like sexual harassment but more than that. But with an open dorm and open showers I guess as you said learning curve. It just seems dehumanizing in a way but I guess that’s what prison does


Shaun Attwood did this video about prison fapping on YouTube. He did time in Arizona state. He addresses the dorm/open shower situation in the video

https://youtu.be/7g2kwU0_9fs
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We were having a discussion about privacy in prison for a different reason. I had laughinly complained to my husband about how much I hate public restrooms in the USA and the huge gaps around the doors. That doesnt happen in the UK no gaps ,very private.
I was telling him that when I used a public restroom at Denver airport , I was having a wee and I accidently managed to make eye contact with a lady washing her hands at the sink .... awkward.

Anyway he said babe you would not manage 5 minutes in here, we have open showers no cubicles, we have no doors on the cells just bars and our toilet faces the landing everyone walking past can see. So he and his cellie have put a improvished curtain around the toilet as have others and its been tolerated. My husband has been in prison since he was a child he has grown up in prison and is used to no privacy. He is very adaptable and makes the best of things. I guess you have to learn that he has a quiet acceptance that I sometimes find it hard to understand. He will tell me it is what it is when I am urging him to do something about something.

As for masturbation well its going to happen people have urges. It can be used to try and humiliate or intimidate CO's and other inmates and that cannot be allowed. However, my husband and his cellie give each other privacy as much as they can.When we had tablets my husband would stay back from chow or yard time to get alone time with me on the phone and we would have our intimacy.

Now our intimacy is on the pod phones , so we have had to adapt to that. Again he can go back to his cell afterwards and his cellie gives him alone time.
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For my husband, he is in a single cell [ no cell mate ] and there are solid metal doors. I figure he can strum his banjo as he likes when in there. Well, except for the guards that go by / check - in .
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My husband said that when him and our best friend were cellies, they would say they needed a minute. The other guy would put headphones in and read or close his eyes. He said you get past the embarrassment quickly. Embarrassment of being naked, going to the bathroom, showering, masturbating, everything. He said when he was in seg, though, he did it all the time. Lol! We had some fun phone calls during that time! Woo!
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My husband has heard that the term used at his prison is "jack shack". Guys build this around them in their beds and they do it there (yuck) and then it just has to be taken down before the COs come around before count. Fortunately, he wound up in a room that none of the 3 of them use this method to take care of business, so they must all do it in private.

The problem with this rule of no masturbation is that it is ridiculous, because masturbation is healthy and normal and if there was no fear of repercussion, most likely at the higher level facilities, then maybe there would be less other issues. Maybe not.
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I have read many testimonials about wide differences in men who don't, or can't masturbates(some prisons like federal do not allow masturbation) and other reasons like religious as well. It is my general assumption from reading testimonies from men, the amount of sex drive and ejaculate a man produces varies widely and has a large effect on how difficult it is for a man to abstain. Some men do say after a while (several weeks) it seems to be easier to abstain from masturbation and ejaculation and experience little discomfort. However, other men who are highly sexed and used to frequent outlets have a very difficult time with the masturbation restrictions, and are usually caught or punished trying to get some relief. Other men have reported serious prostate trouble with sudden abstinence and require treatment or medications. Urologists will confirm either a sudden abstinence or sudden frequent sexual activity can cause prostate issues. Prison is one of those cases where a man is subject to a sudden loss of sexual outlets without any period of adjustment. One young man(from a urologist report) who produced a lot of semen, could not just cut back because of extreme tension from his large ejaculations (some prisons have a "damage to state property rule if semen is discovered), and was forced into complete sexual abstinence and explained how difficult it was for him to learn after months of trying(he didn't want any more charges against him).
I do believe it is wrong for men(and women) to be denied masturbation, since every man (and woman) is different sexually and emotionally, and with widely different drives and needs which is NOT taken into consideration in prisons especially. Prisons should adopt a better way to manage self pleasure among inmates.
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Hilarious. I love it!
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I confess that I'm kind of perplexed about how inmates get caught or why abstinence is even a necessity for some due to fears of being caught. There's always that time of evening or middle of the night when there's no count and cellie is asleep. Who's going to be looking what you're doing under the blanket at half past midnight? (I'd personally always make sure that blanket stayed over me during those times). I know it's messy for the guys, but that can be contained with a little forethought and prep. What am I missing?
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My baby just waits till cellie goes to visit or to eat or something. Then he builds that little tent and goes to business. Sometimes I'm lucky enough that his cellie isn't there and we are on the phone It's something healthy and part of human nature and no one should be punished for this. In my opinion conjugal visits should also be permitted between married couples or couples that have been together for a while. I mean not in the first 3 months of meeting or something. It's a way to release pressure and it's part of human needs. I just wish someone will come around and reinstate "special visits"
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As a CO all I can add is that yes it is prohibited where I work. But in is not enforced, mainly because...well we don't catch them doing it. In my prison we have individual shower stalls that have curtains and while we do enter the larger bathrooms, we generally leave them alone in the showers. The only way I would interrupt an inmate that is in the shower is if I am 100% sure that he is in there doing more than a shower...ie in there with another inmate. Sometimes they use the guise of a running shower to do other things that have nothing to do with showers or masturbation.

IF the masturbation is done with the explicit reasoning so staff witnesses it, then it is a write up. We do not tolerate that, especially if it is directed towards female staff. This is not a huge problem with male inmates, it is a huge problem with female inmates. Some do it SO staff can witness it, they do it so they can get staff in trouble. Staff does not report it, the inmate complains and the staff can get in serious trouble. So most staff report it, even if the female inmate was not doing it for staff to see it.
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*admin delete if not ok* So I was just wondering I was reading an article that in the US it’s illegal for inmates to masturbate. This seems insane to me and how could that be enforced? And that inmates that are caught can be punished? Also in some scenarios like in a prison with an open dorm setting with open showers (no curtain or cubicle) how is it possible to actually possible to have enough privacy to do it. Like I wonder is there an etiquette around it? I don’t think people would beat each other up over it? I got mad a while back and asked my guy to return some (sexy) photos I sent him to me and they all looked very slightly bent/with a thumb indentation on the same side/place on all the photos so it looks like he had some good use out of them lol. So I don’t know this is something that baffles me about our prison system how something like masturbation not involving any other inmate or guard or whatever could be punished. I wonder how inmates get away with it. I have not asked him I would do that outside of prison. So I’m just curious
Masterbating is frownd upon especially if you do it in front of someone either your binky or an officer. Your bunky might physically put you in check where an officer will just give you a ticket. The ticket could be a sex crime. So if he does that I hope he is discreet.
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My boyfriend is in a 4 man cell, so they try to use the showers there. He said there aren't doors or curtains but there's a bar and if you place your towel juuuuuust right you can have a bit of privacy. He tries to shower early enough that there aren't guys waiting and he can take his time.
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