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Ok, so I sat with a visiting co last week to go through the verbiage of the title - it pretty stated very clearly that visitors driving with in 250 miles and who have not visited in six months are excluded from overcrowding terminations.

i should have taken a copy to scan and upload it as an attachment, but seeing it blew my mind and i could hardly think straight - i'll get a copy this weekend and post it.
Did it say anything about "2 consecutive days"? Because the excessive distance rule used to clearly state that it was only for 2 consecutive days of visiting that they couldn't terminate you.
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Hello All, to where and to whom do we send the completed visitors questionnaire?
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@Shadowfax You are fine. Your visits will continue like always. The title 15 has not changed in regards to this issue. I have a copy of the 2011 Title 15 and it has NOT changed. Congrats on the short time he has left. I know you will be happy to be done with all the BS.

If you live LESS than 250 miles from the prison, you are subject to termination due to overcrowding every time you visit, unless YOU have not visited in SIX months.Then your name goes to the end of the list. If your name comes up again, you van be terminated. This rarely happens. If you live more than 250 miles from the prison AND have not visited in the last 30 days, you will not be subject to termination the first time. Your name goes to the end of the list. And if it comes up again, then you will be terminated. This is for 2 days in a row, Sat and Sun.

This is from the TITLE 15, which is law. All the prisons have to abide by it. Often CO's who do not know the title 15, (a lot don't) will say things that are untrue. The prisons can not change the rules cuz they want to. In order to change the rules at a paticular prison, they have to submit paperwork to Sac and justify the threat to the safety and security of the prison. And Sac has to approve it.
I think the post by Peaches is just a misunderstanding.

From the 2011 Title 15

(9) The maximum capacity of the visiting area has been reached
and to allow others to visit it is necessary to terminate the visits of
those persons who have been visiting for the longest period of time.
Exceptions shall include, but are not limited to the following:
(A) Excessive Distance: The visitor has traveled a distance of
250 miles or more, and has not visited within the last 30 days. This
exception applies to two consecutive days of visiting.
(E) Infrequent Visits: When the visitor has not visited the inmate
in the last six months.
(10) When the overcrowding situation persists, visits of those
remaining will be terminated as necessary.


I hope this clears it up.
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Did it say anything about "2 consecutive days"? Because the excessive distance rule used to clearly state that it was only for 2 consecutive days of visiting that they couldn't terminate you.
There are two different things being referred to here. the Title 15 makes an exception for both circumstances and there have been NO changes!!
In §A below it applies only to those visitors who have traveled more than 250 miles and not visited for more than 30 days. It applies to both days of visiting.
Further down §E applies to those visitors who have not visited in six months (180 days) no matter how far they have traveled.
I usually carry a copy of this with me and have had to point this out to the visiting SGT. or LT.
This is taken directly from the Title 15 current through January 2011

(9) The maximum capacity of the visiting area has been reached
and to allow others to visit it is necessary to terminate the visits of
those persons who have been visiting for the longest period of time.
Exceptions shall include, but are not limited to the following:
(A) Excessive Distance: The visitor has traveled a distance of
250 miles or more, and has not visited within the last 30 days. This
exception applies to two consecutive days of visiting.

(B) Weddings: When an inmate and the visitor’s marriage ceremony
occurred on that day.
(C) Disabled: A disabled visitor who must rely on special transportation
to the institution/facility.
(D) Family Emergencies: When death, serious illness or injury
occurs to an inmate’s immediate family as defined in Section 3000.
Clergy or approved visitors may visit the inmate to offer condolences
or inform the inmate of the occurrence.
(E) Infrequent Visits: When the visitor has not visited the inmate
in the last six months.

(10) When the overcrowding situation persists, visits of those
remaining will be terminated as necessary.
(b) Written notification shall be provided to the visitor when action
is taken by the official in charge of visiting to deny, terminate
or restrict a visit. The written notification shall contain information
instructing the visitor how to appeal the action as outlined in section
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There are two different things being referred to here. the Title 15 makes an exception for both circumstances and there have been NO changes!!
In §A below it applies only to those visitors who have traveled more than 250 miles and not visited for more than 30 days. It applies to both days of visiting.
Further down §E applies to those visitors who have not visited in six months (180 days) no matter how far they have traveled.
I usually carry a copy of this with me and have had to point this out to the visiting SGT. or LT.
This is taken directly from the Title 15 current through January 2011

(9) The maximum capacity of the visiting area has been reached
and to allow others to visit it is necessary to terminate the visits of
those persons who have been visiting for the longest period of time.
Exceptions shall include, but are not limited to the following:
(A) Excessive Distance: The visitor has traveled a distance of
250 miles or more, and has not visited within the last 30 days. This
exception applies to two consecutive days of visiting.

(B) Weddings: When an inmate and the visitor’s marriage ceremony
occurred on that day.
(C) Disabled: A disabled visitor who must rely on special transportation
to the institution/facility.
(D) Family Emergencies: When death, serious illness or injury
occurs to an inmate’s immediate family as defined in Section 3000.
Clergy or approved visitors may visit the inmate to offer condolences
or inform the inmate of the occurrence.
(E) Infrequent Visits: When the visitor has not visited the inmate
in the last six months.

(10) When the overcrowding situation persists, visits of those
remaining will be terminated as necessary.
(b) Written notification shall be provided to the visitor when action
is taken by the official in charge of visiting to deny, terminate
or restrict a visit. The written notification shall contain information
instructing the visitor how to appeal the action as outlined in section
3179.


Right so it remains the same..they can & will still terminate you...just can't do it 2 days in a row
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Hi everyone,

I had a big problem today in visiting and I'm hopeing that someone can help me out.

My man is currently located at the Taft Community Correctional Facility.

Let me start off by saying that this was my first visit to this facility so obviously I had not visited previously and under my understanding of the Title 15 I qualified for the exemption (infrequent visits) from termination due to overcrowding.

I was allowed to visit for 2 & 1/2 hours before being told (quite rudely) to leave. When I brought up the title 15 I was told that it didn't apply there and that all they had to give me was an hour. I then asked for my written notification regarding the termination of my visit (again per the title 15) and was told, "I don't have to give you shit." I then asked to speak with a sargent or liutenant and was told, "they are busy." The woman was beyond rude to me, and then when she went back in to escort my man back to his dorm, she told him that she was going to have me banned for arguing with her.

After leaving the facility I called and asked to speak with a sargent or liuteneant. I was connected to a liutenant and he re-iterated what the woman in visiting told me, that they only had to allow one hour per day, and that it's first in and first out regardless of how often I've visited or how far I've traveled from, So I should be happy with the extra time I got. When I brought up the title 15 he said that because they are a private facility that they only have to follow the title 15, "at their discresion." I can harldy believe that the title 15 has become a discresionary document. I have combed the title 15 and have found nothing that state that the private facilities can formulate policies in direct violation of the title 15. In fact I found something that states the opposite:

3171. Visiting Procedures.
(a) The institution head shall maintain visiting procedures for
inmate visiting at each institution/facility. All local visiting procedures
must conform to and shall not conflict with the rules and
regulations set forth in this article. The degree of informality of
inmate visiting will be consistent with the security requirements of

each institution/facility.

Now I take this to mean that the local procedures set up by the Taft CCF cannot conflict with the title 15. Am I correct? And if so, how do I go about complaining about this problem?

Also, I realize that some will say that this doesn't apply to CCFs because all it says is "institution/facility" but I found in the definitions section of the title 15 where it says that the following:

Facility means any institution; community-access facility or
community correctional facility; or any camp or other subfacility
of an institution under the jurisdiction of the department.


I'm having a hard time figuring out who in the CDC oversees the CCFs. When my brother was at CV-MCCF they had CDC sargents on staff, but Taft CCF does not. Any help would be much apprectiated.


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Hi everyone,

I had a big problem today in visiting and I'm hopeing that someone can help me out.

My man is currently located at the Taft Community Correctional Facility.

Let me start off by saying that this was my first visit to this facility so obviously I had not visited previously and under my understanding of the Title 15 I qualified for the exemption (infrequent visits) from termination due to overcrowding.

I was allowed to visit for 2 & 1/2 hours before being told (quite rudely) to leave. When I brought up the title 15 I was told that it didn't apply there and that all they had to give me was an hour. I then asked for my written notification regarding the termination of my visit (again per the title 15) and was told, "I don't have to give you shit." I then asked to speak with a sargent or liutenant and was told, "they are busy." The woman was beyond rude to me, and then when she went back in to escort my man back to his dorm, she told him that she was going to have me banned for arguing with her.

After leaving the facility I called and asked to speak with a sargent or liuteneant. I was connected to a liutenant and he re-iterated what the woman in visiting told me, that they only had to allow one hour per day, and that it's first in and first out regardless of how often I've visited or how far I've traveled from, So I should be happy with the extra time I got. When I brought up the title 15 he said that because they are a private facility that they only have to follow the title 15, "at their discresion." I can harldy believe that the title 15 has become a discresionary document. I have combed the title 15 and have found nothing that state that the private facilities can formulate policies in direct violation of the title 15. In fact I found something that states the opposite:

3171. Visiting Procedures.
(a) The institution head shall maintain visiting procedures for
inmate visiting at each institution/facility. All local visiting procedures
must conform to and shall not conflict with the rules and
regulations set forth in this article. The degree of informality of
inmate visiting will be consistent with the security requirements of

each institution/facility.

Now I take this to mean that the local procedures set up by the Taft CCF cannot conflict with the title 15. Am I correct? And if so, how do I go about complaining about this problem?

Also, I realize that some will say that this doesn't apply to CCFs because all it says is "institution/facility" but I found in the definitions section of the title 15 where it says that the following:

Facility means any institution; community-access facility or
community correctional facility; or any camp or other subfacility
of an institution under the jurisdiction of the department.


I'm having a hard time figuring out who in the CDC oversees the CCFs. When my brother was at CV-MCCF they had CDC sargents on staff, but Taft CCF does not. Any help would be much apprectiated.


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You need to send a citizen's complaint. That is your best course of action. If you send me a PM with your email addy I will send it to you. Or you can search PTO for a link to one. Send it to the address on the form, not to the prison. Be sure to name the staff that you dealt with.

ARTICLE 42 — VISITING
Revised May 1, 2003
54020.1 Policy
The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR)
encourage inmates to develop and maintain healthy family and community
relationships. It is a privilege for inmates to have personal contact visits
while confined in CDCR institutions and facilities. Visiting in CDCR
institutions and facilities shall be conducted in as accommodating a manner
as possible in keeping with the need to maintain order, the safety of persons,
the security of the institution/facility, and the requirements of prison
activities and operations.


Employees are to be alert, courteous, and professional in their dealings with
inmates, inmate visitors, and members of the public. The employee shall
maintain a helpful, but professional, attitude and demeanor.


Except as is necessary to enforce standards of conduct, prevent the
introduction of contraband, and ensure valid identification, visitor privacy
shall not be imposed upon.
Video-recording devices may be utilized in visiting areas, excluding family
visiting units or confidential attorney consultation areas.


You can also send an email to the ombudsman, send it to Sara Malone, she is the top dog.





Contact the Ombudsman's Office
Main Number: 916-445-1773
Sara Malone
Chief Ombudsman
Corcoran State Prison
California Substance Abuse Treatment Facility (SATF)
Sara.Malone@cdcr.ca.gov
(916) 327-8467

Karin Richter
High Desert State Prison
Pelican Bay State Prison
Karin.Richter@cdcr.ca.gov
(916) 327-8446

Jean Weiss
Kern Valley State Prison
Salinas Valley State Prison
Jean.Weiss@cdcr.ca.gov
(916) 324-5458

Ralyn Conner
CSP-Sacramento
CCI Tehachapi
Ralyn.Conner@cdcr.ca.gov
(916) 324-6123

Rosalinda Rosalez
Ombudsman
DJJ Facilities
Women's Institutions
Rosalinda.Rosalez@cdcr.ca.gov
(916)



You can also send a letter to the warden of the facility.

Personally I would do all three.


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A new/updated VISITING GUIDELINES from CDCR has been posted on the CDCR website.

I haven't noticed anyone posting this, so hopefully it is not a duplicate.


Here is the link:

http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Visitors/docs/InmateVisitingGuidelines.pdf
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How can we find out if the prison is on lock down? Calipatria state prison to be exact.
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Call 18003748474 dial 1-6-2 for Calipatria.
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Anyone visited at csatf? What should I wear?

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Because every facility is different I would suggest you ask this question in the CSATF visiting and info thread found here:

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Can I wear a belt to visiting? It is leather with a metal buckle. Thanks!
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Can I wear a belt to visiting? It is leather with a metal buckle. Thanks!
Every facility is different, but the general rule is if you can take it off and pass through the metal detector, you'll be fine. They'll give it back to you on the other side. Worst case scenario they say no and you have to take it back to your car.
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Yes, you must go through the approval process before you can visit, whether it's to be a contact visit or a non contact visit. The routine for non-contact visits/phone visits at most facilities is this: You call the facility and either make the appointment or else you leave a message with your name and phone number, the inmate name and CDC number, the date on which you wish to visit and they call you back to schedule the appointment.
How laid back they are about folks just "showing up" depends a lot on how busy the visiting is at that facility....High Desert, for example, rarely gets "full up" for visits, so it's not quite such a gamble if you did not have a chance to make an appointment, but San Quentin can't be quite so accommodating because their appointment slots tend to really fill up.
My LO has a girlfriend and a daughter (2 year old), she wants to visit, but has an old no contact order...will that keep her from being approved?

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jillocity......it may.
If it had expired maybe.........but if the order was there in order to keep her away from the inmate or him from her due to any type of violence.........its not likely.
She could always try. Fill out the application and see
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