Morales Execution Put on hold

[mkhowes]

Word is that San Quentin has Put Morales' Execution on hold because the doctors refused to stand by due to an ethical question. Maybe there is hope for people on death row.

[RegisSweetness]

hopefully this situation does give hope to those on death row, not just in california but for all states.

[TheGeneralsWife]

Amen to that. I really hope that this impacts how people view the Death Penalty. Everyone I seem to talk to supports it as a revenge type thing, but nobody looks at how cruel and unusual it is. I mean did you hear Vernell Crittenden (SQ Spokesman) on the news last night, rather then calling it what it was, they talked about it so callously that they were merely causing life to cease. I know that they used a different phrase, but it was just so easy for the state to bypass that they were sanctioning murder in order to bring closure to a different murder. With that logic, what about the closure for the families of the people who were executed. Sorry, I know I need to get off my soap box, but I really hope that this is a step towards ending the death penalty.

[Schmusi34]

It's a start. I hope the right people have their brains switched on now and don't loose the track.
Revenge is the wrong way of justice. It doesn't work.

[rlewis729]

What's the latest word on this? I just haven't heard anything.

[TulipGirl]

Executions are still on hold. They are looking at the procedure and the involvement of doctors and anesthesiologists in the process.

[titantoo]

I wish you were right that it gives hope. Unfortunately I don't think so. They are just finding a way to do it without bad press or legal issues. Judicial murder is so wrong under any circumstances in my opinion. It makes me so sad that we do it.

[softheart]

Originally Posted by rlewis729

What's the latest word on this? I just haven't heard anything.

There are on hold indefinitely, while they try and figure out what to do. Since they can't have Medical professionals involved, because of the American Medical Associations code of conduct.

softie

[rlewis729]

My pen pal on DR at SQ wrote me a letter the next day, saying "I woke up and thought Mike was gone...but he was on his way back over here...God is Good!" He was so excited. He was saying that the state can hold guys accountable for their crimes, but they don't have to take their lives to do it.

My sentiments exactly.

[dolphina]

Theyre having a hearing in May in regards to this

[DaveMoff]

This discussion of medical personnel being involved in executions leads me to raise a question. In Texas, paramedics are used to inject the drugs--they are paid and there is supposedly a waiting list.

I'm sure that paramedics do not take the Hippocratic Oath or anything of the sort, but cannot help but wonder, do professional ethics come into play at all here? Who licenses paramedics in Texas and what exactly is their code of ethics, if any?

[chickletone]

I just recieved an e-mail that stated Cal.made public yesterday a 32pg version of its latest Lethal Injection Protocol.It left alot of concerns unanswered like what will be done to monitor if the inmate is unconscious and not in extreme pain.Nathan Barakin-Chief spokesman for the attorney generals office confirmed that:Thier is no Anesthesiologist reflected in either the public version or the full proticol,which his office submitted underseal to a Federal Judge last week.The unredacted document is NEVER
TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC,PRESS,OR LAWYERS REPRESENTING MICHAEL MORALES. You can read the full article @
http://www.sacbee.com./static/richme...6execution.pdf

[dolphina]

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[Strasse]

Originally Posted by DaveMoff

I'm sure that paramedics do not take the Hippocratic Oath or anything of the sort

I've long wondered if there's anything left to the Hippocratic Oath; remember, it bans abortion, among other things, that are now commonly accepted medical procedures.

[crzyrussell]

Originally Posted by Strasse

I've long wondered if there's anything left to the Hippocratic Oath; remember, it bans abortion, among other things, that are now commonly accepted medical procedures.

The Hippocratic Oath is no longer mandatory and has been that way for a long time now.

[softheart]

Originally Posted by dolphina

When I hit the link this is what i get...Do ya got another one?

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Here is another copy of the article

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cg...20Death%20Rows

[chickletone]

Originally Posted by softheart

Here is another copy of the article

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cg...20Death%20Rows

Thanks for helping get this out!!!
Chickletone

[DaveMoff]

I can't help but wonder if the state of California has not given Morales what amounts to virtually automatic grounds for an appeal. He was presumably sentenced to "death in the manner prescribed by law", not by some mysterious method of which neither he nor his attorneys is aware. Hair-splitting, to be sure, but I trust his lawyer is looking into it.

And yes, there are only a few medical schools which administer the Hippocratic Oath any more and it certainly has no legal standing (if taken literally, it would forbid surgery!). I was merely using it as a representative example of the various ethical constraints to which physicians must adhere, while certain other quasi-medical personnel (e.g. paramedics) are generally exempt.