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justwaitin4now · #1 05-28-2007, 12:30 AM

Anyone that can help me or lead me in the right direction I need help immediately....my hubby called me this afternoon and last night when he got off the phone with me two men came into his cell demanding that he give them all of his stuff....he said no...and they almost beat him to death...he has broken bones in his face, split his lip and tore if from his face and just about killed him...he called out for help from the guards and none of them came to help him until he was able to press the emergency button. they beat his face in with a padlock. He is now in ad seg and does not know how long he will be there? Can we request that he stay there for his safety since the two gang members said they would have someone else finish him off for them? I am so scared right now. We have five young children and my husband needs to come home to us when he is done. He will have less than 3 years to do in october, which is his parole hearing, and we know how unlikely it is that he will be paroled the first time...i have our lawyer and we will be calling on tuesday to talk to the warden and his case manager, as of now though can he just ask to not be put back into GP? He and I are scared to death for his life and safety. He has only been in the system since march 1st. Why does this kind fo shit have to happen. I am a such a wreck right now. I just had two wonderful days of seeing him and then this happens. Also we are going to do whatever we can to get him moved to a new facility, his custody level is a 2 and he is eligible for a lower level prison. I need to know he will be safe and nobody else is going to hurt him or kill him...please any help would be great...I am desparate...

scaredinlove · #2 05-28-2007, 11:01 AM

I am so sorry that this is happening to you and your husband. Usually when something like this happen they get moved to a different facility but not always. My girlfriend husband got beat up and that is what they did with him. Also to my understanding that he can just disobey a order like locking down and he will be put in a hole, I know its not the best way to deal with the situation but he will be safe. I am saying a prayer for you and your loved one. My prayers are with you at this trouble time. God Bless. Also, like you said that you are going to get your lawyer involved and talk with his case manager is a good idea.

justwaitin4now · #3 05-28-2007, 05:28 PM

thanks for your prayers and thinking about us during this difficult time...i have been waiting all day to hear from him...i just wish he would call again so i know he is still okay...because it is a holiday i haven't had any help with anyone i have talked to at the prison...our attorney will be contacting the case manager and warden in the morning...i am determined to get him moved...we all fear for his safety since the threat has already been made that they will kill him next time...this is so hard...please continue to pray for us...

galgrif · #4 05-28-2007, 10:20 PM

I hope you get some answers soon! I think your doing all that you can, but I can't imagine how difficult this is right now. Please let us know what happens.

Sunshine2 · #5 05-28-2007, 11:28 PM

Oh man, I feel bad for you....I do.....I am praying here.......I would {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

justwaitin4now · #6 05-29-2007, 12:15 PM

well i was able to talk to his case manager this morning and all they could tell me is that he was shipped out yesterday to a hospital in pueblo for treatment and that he was severely beaten...i am beside myself, i have only slept about 3 hours the last two days and now i have to sit here and worry and wonder about him...i just wish i could talk to him and know that he is okay...they are horrible to family they do not care how much we suffer...they really don't care...they said when he is returned to the facility they will tell him to call me...the case manager said they would keep him in segregation not ad seg until he is healed and until they decide what to do with him...he said it is a high possibility that he will go to a new facility...please keep us in your prayers...

Sunshine2 · #7 05-29-2007, 12:46 PM

Sheesh, they should have a policy out of human decency that when something like this happens to let him call you ASAP.....if not him, a Chaplain or something....

Is there any way you could have the Chaplain's office stop by and see him and then call you and report back to you how he is doing?

Chaplain's can go everywhere that others are not allowed...special privledges and all of that.

seansbabyluv · #8 05-29-2007, 02:20 PM

OMG! I am so sorry! Sean had a buddy who had the crap beat out of him the same way by a white supremist, who was known to be dangerous and was released from Ad Seg and never should have been. Charlie was transferred to CSP, and the other guy was still at AVCF in Ad Seg last we heard...waiting for new charges to be filed.

Unfortunately, they won't let him call you because he can't pay for long distance...but there can't be that many hospitals in Pueblo, you might try calling and see if you can find which one.

Call Offender Services and see if they can give you any information...otherwise you just have to wait for the Case Manager to give you updates.

I wish they would just segregate each gang in separate prisons...Bloods in one, Crips in another, etc., then perhaps the other offenders would be safer! These guys will more than likely have new charges filed against them...but...I don't recommend your husband giving the CO's ANY information...the last thing he needs to live with is a snitch label...they will keep him in protective custody until he can be moved somewhere else.

Hugs!

Cindy

justwaitin4now · #9 05-29-2007, 02:27 PM

Thanks Cindy...i called the prison a little while ago and the case manager said he is back in the facility and he will get a message to him that I have been calling and checking in on him, they said when he gets a chance to call me then he will...i just need to hear from him that he is okay...i don't trust anyone anymore...the case manager said that both men are under arrest and that multiple charges will be filed...my attorney is involved with all of this now too...if they aren't going to protect my husband i will be sure they do...honestly the gangs should all be segregated and with their own...heck then if they want to cause any problems let them cause them between themselves. my husband is just been trying to do what he needs to so he can get his time done and get home to me and the kids...I will keep you all updated...and pleast continue to pray for all of us.

mystery1 · #10 05-29-2007, 02:38 PM

I am a prison employee in another state, however I believe because of legal reason this issue is the same in all states. He needs to request protective custody (PC). They will have a hearing and a panel of 3 make recommendation to the Warden. In his case it will be automatic approval due to him already being physically harmed. If he is in lockup now they will keep him there until the hearing. In my institution inmates in gen. pop make request through their case manager. In his case in the hole he would request through the LT. or Captain that is over that area, I would also advise him to kite the Warden with request. He should be rode out to another institution after the hearing.

mystery1 · #11 05-29-2007, 02:53 PM

Just so you know the state is resposible for your husband's safety. They must take all reasonable precautions to keep him safe after being made aware of the situation. Be sure you document dates, times and personnel that you talk to. They have to take your concerns under advisement too. If he is not moved and is further injured it is a no brainer lawsuit. The state hates that. If you haven't already, you call or write and request a transfer for him and keep good documentation that you did so. Do it in a steno pad or log book of some kind. It will hold up in court and make sure you ask staff members their names. This will serve as notice to them that you are aware of whom you are talking to and possible documentation. It will make all the difference in the response you get from them. When dealing with staff, remain calm and professional and respectful BUT! persistant and ask for details as to how they will take care of anything they tell you they will check into. This holds them accountable and Wardens will take note of this if you have to go over their heads to the Warden. Staff love families that call in and act like idiots, cause no response or action is required...they are just blowed off to anyone that may question as troublemakers etc. Good Luck!

scaredinlove · #12 05-29-2007, 08:35 PM

My thoughts and prayers are still with you...Love Rebecca

justwaitin4now · #13 05-30-2007, 08:41 AM

Thank you all so much....I spent just about my whole day on the phone yesterday between his facility and the main DOC office...then I was right back up this morning and back at it again...finally a couple of answers...as I already knew he is in segregation and will remain there until he is moved to another facility...I get to go and visit him on Monday for an hour...and they said the rules are that he is only allowed one phone call every thirty days...well don't you think somebody would have told me that yesterday when I kept asking and asking why I hadn't heard from him? The CO I was on the phone with this morning assured me that he is doing okay and he was actually out of his cell for his hour while we were talking on the phone. So that made me feel a lot better. I was going crazy not knowing how he was doing especially since he had been transported out to a hospital for care. Thanks again to all of you and if you don't mind keeping our family in your prayers it is greatly appreciated from all of us.

Sunshine2 · #14 05-30-2007, 12:33 PM

I am so glad you got a report on him, thats great!!!

Yes, I shall be praying.....if you would like I could put his name (or anonymous) on a prayer site or two, for instance, the Brooklyn Tabernacle (ever heard of the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir?) has a prayer team and you submit a prayer request to them and they pray every single day for 30 straight days.

seansbabyluv · #15 05-31-2007, 05:05 AM

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I get to go and visit him on Monday for an hour

Did they also tell you the visit would be non-contact? He will be handcuffed and behind bullet proof glass. Just wanted you to know before you made the drive all the way down there...Segregation might as well be punishment, you don't get treated any better then the gang bangers that beat him up...

justwaitin4now · #16 05-31-2007, 08:25 AM

I was already aware of how the visit would be I read all the regulations about noncontact visits. At this point I don't care I just need to see for myself that he is okay and be able to talk to him. I'm not waiting another 26 days for him to tell me how he is doing. I know he probably got a chance to mail me a letter yesterday if not by today so that will help too. This whole phone thing is rediculous though. And yes unfortunately in order to keep him safe and to let him heal he has to follow all the rules just like anyone else, even though he is not in trouble. It sucks, but it's better than him being in GP. I am hoping he will only be there long enough to finish the investigation and then get him moved. The guy in Offender services at the main DOC has been working on it all week already. He said that they have 10 days to get it done or he will be riding their ass.

seansbabyluv · #17 05-31-2007, 04:44 PM

Yep that sounds like Paul. I have his email if you need it too. He's really good about responding. That's weird about the 1 phone call a month though. Sean was allowed 3 calls per week and he had charges filed against him.

I would call the Warden and find out why he's only allowed 1 phone call every 30 days when he hasn't done anything. It sounds like the CO's don't want to spend their time letting him use the phone.

justwaitin4now · #18 05-31-2007, 05:56 PM

I will call in the morning. I thought it sounded strange that he could only have one call every 30 days. Thanks for the info Cindy. I sure hope I can find something out from the Warden.

barb58766 · #19 06-03-2007, 11:20 PM

Maybe the visit will only be video visitation--he will be in one building and you in another with cameras on each of you so you can see each other and talk via a phone system--it really sucks

justwaitin4now · #20 06-04-2007, 09:30 PM

Well I had my visit with my hubby today and it was great even though we had to talk to each other between glass...it is definately better than not seeing him at all. He is getting moved to a new facility sometime this week or definately by the first part of next week. Thank god. He is healing up well, his stitches came out today and now he is just really black and blue. All things considered things are going pretty well. I was able to visit him from a little after 1 until 2:45. I think they forgot about us in that little room, plus another inmate was brought in and I think they had to deal with him first so they let us keep visiting. Thanks for everyones well wishes and prayers it has meant so much to all of us.

irshnrse · #21 06-05-2007, 06:53 AM

justwaiting--I am so sorry that happened! My computer was down, so I just read your posts. I am glad that he is okay though. I wonder where he is going...The one call every 30 days does sound messed up. When my husband first got to Colorado, they had him on Level 1 and he could call once every 30 days. But, why would they change your husband's Level for being a victim? Sometimes the system is so jacked up. I am keeping y'all in my prayers.

Sunshine2 · #22 06-06-2007, 01:35 PM

If I were you I would get a Chaplian involved....they could let you know what is going on with him all the time, if they want....

justwaitin4now · #23 06-06-2007, 04:45 PM

the phone calls have nothing to do with his leve. they say that anyone that is in segregation only gets a phone call once every 30 days, if in ad seg it is one every 15 days. none of it makes sense to me but with the 500 phone calls i have made i haven't gotten any other answers. he was transported out of the facility today, yeah i'm not supposed to know this but the lady in medical at the main DOC just told me that because she will have to wait until tomorrow to call the current facility to get some info to them about our concerns. so hopefully i will be able to look him up tomorrow morning and find out where he went. as far as i know he is doing okay, like i said i got to see him on monday afternoon and he looked pretty good, banged up and bruised but good. i just can't wait to talk to him on the phone again, hopefully i will hear from him in a couple of days. I know when he was moved the first time he called me once the first day and then he was put in GP the next and could call whenever he wanted. I will just have to wait and see what happens.

irshnrse · #24 06-06-2007, 05:36 PM

Keep your head up! You are doing a great job staying strong.

justwaitin4now · #25 06-06-2007, 08:29 PM

yeah they seem to think they will make us weaker and break us down...heck after seven years of probation and now this it has only made him and I stronger. I have talked to him on the phone twice tonight. It has been heaven to hear his voice again. He got to go outside for an hour tonight and I can tell that he is feeling so much better. He is so happy to be out of 23 hour lockdown. Now we are just worried and anxious about where he will be going. He is just at YOS again until he is moved either tomorrow or this week sometime. Thanks to all of you for your support and prayers. If you still have the time to pray for us it will be greatly appreciated.