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**Keltria** · #**101** 06-10-2007, 04:23 AM

For those wondering I have merged Paris Hilton Threads simply because there are threads floating around in different forums. Easier to post in one section then create new threads in different forums.

Thanks

Keltria

nimuay · #**102** 06-10-2007, 08:09 AM

Thanks Keltria - I've been trying to avoid all the Paris threads, but it was like stepping through a minefield!

marchtwenty3 · #**103** 06-10-2007, 10:18 AM

"Free Paris Hilton"? why not FREE my son & everyone else who has a Medical Condition," gee "why is she "so special" & our loved ones aren't? I'll tell you - why She is MEGA - RICH ! Money talks in this society! If you don't have the $$ you get lost in the cracks, I understand we all have our views on this forum but why "free Paris"??? This whole media attention is over-rated SHE is over-rated! She will come out & write a book and make more $$$, I don't feel sorry for her present situation...again only my views. (most feel the same way I have read in the papers etc)...

Compassionate · #**104** 06-10-2007, 11:22 AM

Thanks Mel2020...sent you a pm.

BTW, does anyone know which jail she's in right now? The name, the address? I'm just curious.

His_shortie · #**105** 06-10-2007, 02:47 PM

Im hoping DirksWifey was kidding right??

Sorry guys im all "paris hilton'd" out for the moment. Bring this back to me in a month I'll be refreshed so maybe I won't be so hateful.

Bella

SpicaRigel · #**106** 06-10-2007, 08:10 PM

nimuay! you made a great com"PARIS"ion! a minefield! how true, im paris'd out too. whatcha all think about this new diet thing hittin the drugstores tommorow? "alli"?

cat805 · #**107** 06-10-2007, 09:50 PM

Okay the Free Paris thing....I really hope it was a joke.....LMAO....and aren't we about Paris'd out....no not yet....okay then I'll add my

...lol....I went to visit my son yesterday and he has for the second time in the last couple months a staff infection on his hip....being denied medical...cuz they already gave him a round of antibiotics....so I say FREE MY SON....if we have a free get out of jail card here....

About the sherriff thing...I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a big ole reprimand...remember here in Cali....the judge, the DA, the Sherriff's Office, the Public Defenders are all county employees....

She's back in jail....whatever the alledged ploy was....it didn't work...and yeah she tried...but wouldn't you....I know I would....

....lol....

hmmm....but I'll say it again....the letter to the governor thing asking for a pardon....now that is a

....yeah....gotta get up off the floor....ROFL...

cat805 · #**108** 06-10-2007, 09:53 PM

Okay the Free Paris thing....I really hope it was a joke.....LMAO....and aren't we about Paris'd out....no not yet....okay then...oops messed this up...lol but it gives me a chance to say hey Wendi...what about the new diet thing "alli"....much more interesting......lol

SpicaRigel · #**109** 06-10-2007, 10:20 PM

some new diet thing..gonna be available thru wallgreens tommorow. cat, how is your son? yeah it is sad our girl wrote the guv'nah! but seems like now she has a change in thinking, she says she wants to do all the time. this is a start...this is growth...

Strasse · #**110** 06-10-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Csmcgrl23

when the sheriff said she was released was she supposed to say "no sheriff, let me stay and do my time" would you have done that?

Her people (a small platoon of lawyers and private doctors) went on her behalf to meet with (manipulate?) the sheriff's dept. and a couple of hours later she was out. When her plan (whether or not hatched by her, herself) backfired, I'm not surprised she was upset...

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Originally Posted by Csmcgrl23

Someone just told me about the chick from the show lost that was on probation then got pulled over again for a DUI....got like 2 months in jail...went to start her time and was back out that same day...the difference is that Paris is being punished for who she is and used as an example

Michelle Rodriguez had the good fortune to be sentenced / start serving when LA County was totally overcrowded and it was a well-known policy to book-and-release anyone serving 90 days or under (the max penalty for misdemeanor "wet reckless" probation violation is 90 days). Paris has the misfortune to show up for incarceration when we're not quite so overcrowded...

Strasse · #**111** 06-10-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yawncosbabygirl

Yes, and I think that's crap too! Proponderance of evidence

! (And, if I spelled that wrong, tough!) My grandson's father just had to plead guilty

"Preponderance of the evidence" as a standard in civil trials is ancient; there has (in the American system at least) always been a lesser burden of proof in civil trials than in criminal (where liberty and possibly life, as opposed to "just" money, are at stake). That works both ways; you as a plaintiff have a lower burden of proof, too (say you were hit by a car; you wouldn't have to establish the other driver's negligence "beyond a reasonable doubt," an almost impossible standard when you don't have unlimited funds for detectives, lab work, etc).

Also, there's no "guilty" in civil trials. If it goes to a jury or bench trial, there's a finding for the plaintiff or defendant, but no "guilty" or "not guilty." There's also no "plea." I'll assume you mean he settled?

TedEBare · #**112** 06-11-2007, 06:51 AM

Strasse,

In Michigan, Circuit Court and Family Court are one and the same. They were going after his parental rights. When he pled guilty, (that's how it was presented to me) they only made he and my daughter have a worker come into the home for a month and have a psych evaluation. (Mind you, my daughter was brought up on NO CHARGES. She wasn't home when his arm was broken. Yet, she HAD to go thru the same punishment that he did!) My point is, he was found NOT GUILTY in a criminal court. Then, was going to have to be tried for the same damn thing in a different court.

Sunshine2 · #**113** 06-11-2007, 08:52 AM

Hey, did you all see where she called Barbera Walters over the weekend and told her she is a changed person?

She had a wake up call...

**Crone** · #**114** 06-11-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine2

Hey, did you all see where she called Barbera Walters over the weekend and told her she is a changed person?

She had a wake up call...

Per ABC/Good Morning America, Paris's mother was being interviewed by Barbara Walters when Paris called home. When she learned her mother was talking with Barbara she asked to speak with her.

Personally, I'm glad she had a wake up call. After all, wasn't that what the Judge and the public were hoping would happen?

Strasse · #**115** 06-11-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yawncosbabygirl

In Michigan, Circuit Court and Family Court are one and the same.

Same in California; Superior Courts hear both civil and criminal cases. The laws and rules applied to the different types of cases, however, are the same; preponderance of evidence (or "clear and convincing" in certain instances) in civil, "beyond all reasonable doubt" in criminal.

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Originally Posted by yawncosbabygirl

My point is, he was found NOT GUILTY in a criminal court. Then, was going to have to be tried for the same damn thing in a different court.

Again, different standard of proof, and different remedies available (criminal: jail or death penalty in addition to fines, restitution, etc.; civil, just money or equitable remedies).

haswtch · #**116** 06-11-2007, 12:46 PM

I think for her to say, listen folks, there's a lot of more important stuff going on than me right now, gives me enormous hope for the lass

chickletone · #**117** 06-11-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by haswtch

I think for her to say, listen folks, there's a lot of more important stuff going on than me right now, gives me enormous hope for the lass

Not sure I'd go with "enormous hope" but there is alil bit of hope for the chile.Will jus have to see once she's released an the camera's back on her if she's out of the "me me all about me"attitude!

donnysgirl4life · #**118** 06-11-2007, 02:11 PM

Celebs should NOT be treated any different than any one else...In this case, money, nOR "who you are" should not have ANY affect on your final judgement. She is a human being, and she should serve the same amount of time, pay the same fines, and probation as the rest of us would. No exceptions should be allowed.

CHICANA760 · #**119** 06-11-2007, 04:23 PM

I am just so tired of Britney, Nicole, Lindsay and Paris and all there drunk under the influence moments. These girls just party to much and they love the publicity. Paris put her self in the situation she is in by driving drunk after a night out of parting. Yes she is going to do her time. We may not all agree on the time she gets and everything that is going on with her and the judicial systems. What I do know is that she is just getting to much attention for this. All this is doing is getting her more famous for doing something wrong in the first place. God only knows how much more will it take for this girl to wake up and see the damage she is doing to herself. She does not know how lucky she is. She could have hurt herself and/or someone else for driving under the influence. I hope this girl wakes up and learns her lesson before anything worst happens to her.
Where I live there is a 24 year old girl missing and most likely she is dead. An other girl who is 20 years old who was kidnapped by her boy friend and was beaten by him and God knows what else. There are girls all over the world that are missing and there parents have no idea where they are at. I hope to God that her mother knows how lucky she is she knows where her daughter is. She may not like where her daughter is but at least she knows where she is and is alive. Paris is Lucky she is only doing 40 days and not her life.

haswtch · #**120** 06-11-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chickletone

Not sure I'd go with "enormous hope" but there is alil bit of hope for the chile.Will jus have to see once she's released an the camera's back on her if she's out of the "me me all about me"attitude!

LOL Chick, you're right, enormous might be an overstatement

ChicosLiLMaMa · #**121** 06-11-2007, 09:48 PM

lol...cant believe they let her out in the first place

**Keltria** · #**122** 06-12-2007, 12:20 AM

I am closing this thread due to the fact that many have forgotten about the purpose of PTO

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