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‘The Gallows’
I shall live above and beyond the guilt,
And the silence that has been bestowed upon me.
On this day, I will not allow the gallows of condemnation,
Nor the shadow of its misgiving qualms,
To keep me from the peace that surrounds me.
Nor darken the light of hope and new-born faith,
That I have found in my Freedom with God.
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I use to put this on each letter I sent on my son (Outside) so all could read:

" Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you. Second Thessalonians 1:6
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Cactus, is Judge Brennan saying that a lesser punishment that produces that same result is not considered an actual punishment if it is not severe enough?
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Cactus, is Judge Brennan saying that a lesser punishment that produces that same result is not considered an actual punishment if it is not severe enough?
William Joseph Brennan, Jr. (April 25, 1906 – July 24, 1997)
Judge William Brennan gained a strong reputation for his firm commitment to protecting individual liberty and equality. He was involved in defending the rights of criminal defendants early in his career, and later played a major role in shaping decisions in the United States Supreme Court relating to the flexibility of the Constitution. He attracted some criticism for his view of the US as a secular democracy, but was also highly respected for his civil rights work.
In the quote you mentioned above, he often felt that the "lesser punishment" that produced the same result as would the more "severe punishment" did away with the need for severe punishment. In other words, he was a strong advocate for 'alternative sentencing'. He opposed the death penalty, became a voice and stood against the majoritarian voice for severe punishment, he was an expert in poverty, welfare, juvenile justice and constitutional law and he was devoted to 'free speach'. Hope that answered your question!

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That makes better sense.....thanks for explaining. I sort of had to dissect that one and it was incorrect dissection. Did I spell that right?

Sounds like an intelligent Judge and we need more like him.

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Yeah Most Folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be. Ialways loved that saying although I never knew it was from Abe. Another great one is 'To do the same thing over and over again and expect different results is called insanity."
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Yeah Most Folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be. I always loved that saying although I never knew it was from Abe. Another great one is 'To do the same thing over and over again and expect different results is called insanity."
Ya, Abe has a few good quotes, he was a down to earth person. As Abolitionist Wendell Phillips put it; “He is a huckster in politics; a first rate, second rate man.” Back in 2004 I went to the Henry Ford Museum in Michigan where I saw the actual chair Lincoln was sitting on when ‘John Wilkes Booth’ assinated him. His blood is still on that chair today. Not many know this, but he was good at poetry too.
Below is a poem written by Lincoln in 1844 after revisiting his boyhood home;
“My childhood home I see again and sadden with the view;
And still, as memory crowds my brain, there’s pleasure in it too.
O Memory! Thou midway world twixt earth and paradise,
Where things decayed and loved ones lost in dreary shadows rise,
And, freed from all that’s earthly vile, seemed hallowed, pure, and bright,
Like scenes in some enchanted isle, all bathed in liquid light.”
‘Abraham Lincoln’

“I am rather inclined to silence and whether that be wise or not, it is at least more unusual now-a-days to find a man, who can hold his tongue, than to find one who cannot.” ‘Abraham Lincoln’
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“What is man born for but to be a reformer, a re-maker of what man has made;
A denouncer of lies: a restorer of truth and good, imitating that great Nature which embosoms us all.
And which sleeps no moment on an old past, but every hour repairs herself,
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"Just think how happy you would be if you lost everything you have right now, and then got it back again.”
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I LOVE quotes, I have hundreds of them saved for every occasion and every feeling you could think of!! I include them in my husband's letters all the time.
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I LOVE quotes, I have hundreds of them saved for every occasion and every feeling you could think of!! I include them in my husband's letters all the time.
While I was sitting in prison, and to keep myself and my family encouraged I would do the same thing. I would always leave a quote written by me or by a famous poet/writer or politician with occasional biblical passages as well. I was at the library all the time to find just the right quotes and/or to write some quotes of my own. I found a book called; Familiar Quotations written by; John Bartlett. It had hundreds of quotes by well known writers, poets and politicians dating back hundreds of years. I believe the book was published in 1954. That book was my favorite experience in reading while I was there!
I find that quotes are at most times the written words of things we have already experienced (wisdom) or feel. To put those feelings and/or wisdom into words has a way of making them eternal. It also helps bring out what's already in the heart, regardless if one is the reader or the writer. A good writer knows the many different ways to romanticize the beauty and/or the harshness of life. I like to think of it as well written photography of the past and present while splicing into the film the words of faith and hope for the future. Of course that's the one of many styles and colors of quotes and poetry I enjoy most.
Over-all, quotes are the recorded words of wisdom by the greatest and the simplest of our peers.
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After it was frozen.”
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You have a nice way of expressing things Cactus......one can read your words and go ahha....yes.....AMEN! I think you are one great writer and we are privileged to have you in and on this forum.......thanks again!
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i truly believe that Lincoln was a wise man
I agree! And Lincoln seemed to know the human heart when he wrote this comparison about our future to his present day;

“Human nature will not change. In any future great national trial, compared with the men of this,
we shall have as weak and as strong, as silly and as wise, as bad and as good.”
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