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nahin · #26 04-09-2011, 02:09 AM

Hi Nicky,
I am doing OK, very stressed though. I don't know how I will be able to take all this. I thought the halfway houses are better since you are not in the jail anymore. I am assuming people are in Millhaven for 3-4 months while they are assessed--correct. Please post the list when you get it. It will help us prepare. My main worry is how do inmates kill their time inside the prison--what is your hubby saying about that. I have an engineering degree. You think I will still have to do my courses in the prison. If yes then what kind of courses. Do they have councillors inside the prison to help the inmates with depression. When is your hubby moving out of Millhaven. For how many weeks he has been in there now.

CAP62 · #27 04-09-2011, 09:07 AM

Thanks again for your help Nicky. Yes, since I live in the Kitchener Waterloo area I will go to Maplehurst in Milton first until transferred to Millhaven. I am in the same situation as Nahin so as you learn things further about Millhaven and your husband's situation, your posts are very helpful. Take care.

nicky3 · #28 04-09-2011, 08:38 PM

hubby is very bored nahin I wont lie. He gets library time when he can he watches wayyyy to much tv but then there isnt anything else to do in PC. he also writes lots of letters. I have been able to send crosswords and sudokos for him to do also. the courses are more like tests to verify your level of education. also they have an orientation class. hubby got that after he was there for 6weeks. he has also seen the councelors there. he says the courses are boring and pretty common sense but it gets him out of his cell so he goes to them all every chance he gets.he has been in Millhaven for 3 months now and we have no clue when he will be moved. its a very very slow moving place. the halfway houses that are an option for hubby arent great at all they are found in really seedy parts of town as noone in great neighbourhoods want a halfway house as a neighbour. Youd have to check in the city you are in to see what they are like though. they may be different in different cities?? its not a fun time I know nahin its extreemly stressful but if you listen to the guards dont cause or follow disturbances are quiet when others are banging on doors or whatnot it will all be ok.

nicky3 · #29 04-09-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CAP62

Thanks again for your help Nicky. Yes, since I live in the Kitchener Waterloo area I will go to Maplehurst in Milton first until transferred to Millhaven. I am in the same situation as Nahin so as you learn things further about Millhaven and your husband's situation, your posts are very helpful. Take care.

I will keep posting as I learn more.

its stressful for everyone so the more info that is shared hopefully the less suprises for everyone. take care

nahin · #30 04-10-2011, 06:33 AM

Thanks Nicky,
Do you know for how long your hubby will be in there before he is released on parole. Did the PO give any indication. For how long was the initial sentence. Was it 3 years.

nicky3 · #31 04-10-2011, 08:12 AM

Not a clue how long he has left. His lawyer said 99% sure hed be in for 6months but the PO seems to think when he leaves Millhaven he will be in medium for a few months then moved to minimum for a few more probly looking at 9months total. Im sorry I get really sketchy info on this. either hubby is afraid to tell me how long he will be gone for or he really hasnt a clue either. he was sentenced to 3 years

nahin · #32 04-10-2011, 09:31 PM

Hi Nicky,
A dumb question--if an inmate is feeling depressed then can they get anti depressent pills in the prison. If your hubby was sentenced for a non violence related issues then he can get out at 6 months--I think. But with the new Bill, I don't know whether early parole exists anymore in Canada. I have heard that there is gym in Millhaven and the inmates can go there everyday--is that true.
Can you mail magazines and newspapers to your hubby in the prison.

JJCRS · #33 04-11-2011, 07:55 AM

Hi everyone, this is my first post so my apologies if i'm making a mistake... My only brother was sentenced to a "white colar offense" 2 weeks ago.... on Friday he was transferred from Lindsay to Millhaven (i think) but no one has confirmed...Lindsay simply said "he's not on the list" and when i called Millhaven they won't tell me anything, just "you have to wait for him to call you". I think it's horrible that the system doesn't even notify family members as to where their loved ones went.... Is this normal? he doesn't have a bad bone in him so i'm petrified for what will happen during his stay at Millhaven... i'm just trying my best to keep positive

As a sister, i've been doing a lot of reserach on APR (accelerated parole release) as his original lawyer had told us he could get out 1/6th of his sentence... here is the fully confirmed information I have received from a respectable judge.

Bill C-59, which abolished the system of Accelerated Parole Review, which allowed those serving sentences of two years or more (i.e. sentences to be served in federal penitentiaries) for non-violent offences to obtain their day parole after serving one sixth of their sentence and full parole after serving one third, received Royal Assent on March 24th, 2011, which means it's now law.

Michael Ignatiev stated on April 8, 2011, that if the Liberals are elected, they'll reverse a number of the Conservatives, "Tough on Crime" laws, including Bill C-59 and C-25, passed in 2010, the so-called "Truth in Sentencing Act" which prevents judges from giving two-for-one credit to convicts for time they have spent in pre-sentence custody. Ignatiev says that the amendments are expected to drive up costs by putting more people in jail for longer periods.

It looks like in a nutshell, APR is not available but the Liberals are fighting to get it put back in if they are elected.

I BEG EVERYONE on this forum to vote this May... i am one of those lazy Canadians that never voted but for the first time i will be voting this year... for the liberals.... in hopes that every family members like me with a loved one (innocent loved ones) in jail can have hope that their loved ones will be released at least 1/6th of the sentence.

JJCRS · #34 04-11-2011, 08:05 AM

Nicky3 - If your man was sentenced to a non violent crime he will be eliglble for parole after 1/3 of his sentence... my brother was sentenced to 2 years and 2 months so he will be eligible on month 9. Since your man received 3 years you are looking at 12 months before he will be eligible for parole. (this is what i've been told by the PBC - Parole board canada)

Nahin - I've been told if you want to mail any reading materials you will need to get permission from the library at Millhaven (or the prison that they are staying at). My ex had spent some time at Millhaven and what I've been told is that while you are in MAU you shouldn't show any signs of mental weakness (aka depressions) for this will hinder your chances of parole. They will ask questions likes, "have you blacked out?" "have you been depressed?" "have you ever had thoughts of suicide"..... if any of the question is answered with "yes" there's a chance the parole board will use it against you.... just a precaution

nicky3 · #35 04-11-2011, 08:53 AM

hi nahin

yes if you are on meds now you will be given them in Millhaven dont worry about that at all. Also if you are having ahard time they will give you meds there also. They will make you take a computer test about depression and suicide and stuff its a riddiculous test hubby said but its one they all have to take. He sees his councilour once a week at his request. Honestly Im not sure what he is classified as violent or non violent. Since it doesnt affect how I feel about him I never asked for the "dirty" details past how long is he gone for.

JJCRS I too am one of the group of Canadians who has never voted lolol I was told I will be voting this year lololol BUT I was told by hubby NOT to vote liberal. ( will verify if he told me right I tend to turn deaf at political talk lol) He is a HUGE political person and he said liberals are fighting for tougher laws and to keep the inmates inside for full sentences but like I said I will verify this with him. Also for what ever reason Millhaven is being very very slow in calling people for confirmation calls and such and will NOT give out information on any inmates because of privacy laws. I have a friend who was apperantly transfered to Millhaven on Wednesday but noone has gotten a call yet. So you are not alone and hopefully will be notified soon!!

Also if at any time nahin you feel just to unsafe in the genral population you can request to go PC it will not affect your time or look bad to your PO. There are many people who start off in GP and request a move to PC and still do the classes at the same rate as everyone else.

nahin · #36 04-11-2011, 10:54 AM

Hi Nicky,
What is gp and pc. Can you please let me know. Please do not vote for conservatives. JJ is right that Bill C-59 is bad. Early parole is gone.

JJ-I hope your brother is doing well. He is lucky that got transferred to Millhaven so soon. If you don't mind can you let me know for how much was he charged. I am assuming it was close to $1M--correct. Since Bill C-59 has not become a law then why acn't your brother get out at 1/6th--have you checked with your lawyer.

nicky3 · #37 04-11-2011, 11:07 AM

hi nahin GP is general population PC is protective custody..... maybe he told me not to vote conservs?? ughhh I so dislike politics I do however have to vote what hubby says lolol I have however given him permission to write to me about the debates and politics and stuff I know he is watching everything very closely. Well as closely as he can from TV I also think he might be getting a newspaper in Millhaven. Ill have to ask. Also nahin it takes at most 2 weeks to get moved to Millhaven. sometimes as little as 5 days. My friend got moved from niagra region to Metro West in Toronto then to Millhaven I think in 8 days he had a few days delay because of a disturbance in one of the prisons. Its moving out of Millhaven that is taking so long. This weekend Hubby said he hopes to be out of Millhaven in 4-6 weeks but who knows.

JJCRS · #38 04-11-2011, 12:11 PM

Nicky3 - ya i hate politics lol.. never really cared about which party until now. It's on the Liberal's website, they are against Bill C59. I even wrote to them asking what their view was and they made the same statement i posted above. They confirmed if elected they will make changes to Bill C 59 which abolished early parole for non violent offenders....

Nahin - thank you for your kind words, i hope my brother is doing well too. Would love to hear from him soon....I don't mind at all, ask anything you need to know

My brother wasn't charged with a monetary amount. The "victim" owned my brother a lot of money... long story short... he screwed my brother over and my brother was slapped with a charge of extortion and verbal assult; sentencing was 30 months less 4 months (credit for bail time) so he got 26 months as his sentence.

Unfortunately the the conservative party and the bloc Q did vote for the Bill C 59 and the bill received royal assent on March 23th 2011.... only 6 days prior to my brother being sentenced

and unfortunately, the way it works in canada is that if the bill became law, it impacts anyone that was sentenced post it becoming law. I've checked with 4 criminal lawyers and they all say it's law but based on what happens with the upcoming election... if the liberals win, they will most likely fight the bill so... i'm keeping my fingers crossed that team red wins in May.

If not... looks like my brother won't be out on parole until 9 months

Ps, my brother was transferred from Lindsay (CECC) on Friday afternoon.... he was there 10 days before he got transferred to The Haven... i was actually hoping he would stay at CECC as i've heard so many bad things about Millhaven... my ex was there for 2 years during the big riot awhile ago, so i don't have the foundest memory or stories about that place....

nicky3 · #39 04-11-2011, 12:23 PM

they at anytime Ive been told can ask to go PC. I totally understand general isnt for everyone. Ill probly be speaking to hubby on saturday when I visit all about politics blahhhhh lololololol Ill post what he says for me to do lol honestly hubby has had some incidencences at Millhaven usually with the GP side where they have lockdowns and stuff but aside from the one guy being killed last month nothing to serious has been going on. Some guards are nicer then others. some inmates are roudier then others but I guess its to be expected in that life. fingers crossed everyone gets out safe and sooner then later!!

vacation_junkie · #40 04-11-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by branz87

So they are so many questions many have about your guy being transferred to Millhaven. I have chosen to write down my experiences to date! My boyfriend was sentenced on a friday, then 2 and a half weeks later it was a monday he was transferred from barton st. to milton where he had a two night stay he then went on the wednesday to millhaven. I got my courtesy call on the saturday. From what my guy was told its faster to add one number at a time to the call list as they only call one person per day, and they only add numbers once all numbers are listed. Also if somebody doesn't answer they will continue to try that person before heading to the next. It has now been a week and still no call to see if I wish to talk to him. From what I've been told it may be 2-3 weeks to be put on a call list. Also as for visiting a form is required as well as two passport photos I was going to post the link however I was unable to. What i can tell you is it is available on Correctional Service Canada under the forms tab. Once I am able to post urls I will post it.Millhaven's mailing address : Inmates Name.. Mau Millhave... PO BOX 280....bath, ontario.. K0H 1G0... As far as how long it takes for visits to be approved I do have to admit I have slacked as I have not yet mailed my application although I will mail it by friday and I will post how long it took. Once I speak to my boo I will post anymore details he can provide to me. However I will advise his first night was a horrible night. Apparently this place is the worst. Oh and I can provide a number 613-351-8138

My boyfriend was transfered from MW on Wednesday..today is Monday and he has yet to make a "Courtesy call" and no one has called to approve my phone number yet! So frustrating

nahin · #41 04-16-2011, 12:12 AM

Hi Nicky,
please let us know how is your hubby. I hope your visit goes well today. Please ask your hubby about day parole and how easy it is to get approved. I know that he is not applying but just for my information. Also ask him if has checked with his PO the difference between APR and day parole. Can you meet him and hug him or is it behind a glass. Any other news, let us know.

nicky3 · #42 04-16-2011, 03:59 PM

Hi nahin

just got back from Millhaven. all is good there with hubby anyways. he says to tell you there is NO longer APR. the government got rid of it. apperantly thats why I am voting liberal. You have to apply for parole now and because APR is gone there will be a back log of applicants its going to take longer to get approved. Millhaven is also experiencing a backlog in a few things. They are 6 weeks behind in giving the inmates their orientation classes. Medicals are also about 6 weeks behind. Please realise things move very very slow. Hubby is in week 11 there and last week he finally got his hepB shot, 2 weeks ago he finished orientation and all the other tests inmates have to take for assessments. No I cant have open visits till he is out of assessment

it is totally behind glass and on a phone. once he gets placed open visits will then be approved. There are open visits in Millhaven but those are for the inmates who are staying there not for the ones in the assessment area.Make sure you have money in your account as soon as you can you are allowed $500 for every year you are sentence for. Im not saying have that much just letting you know how much you are allowed to have. Im sorry I asked about day parole but got sidetracked when he told me about APR so we didnt end up discussing DP.

nahin · #43 04-17-2011, 01:27 PM

Hi Nicky,
Glad to know that your hubby is doing well. He is already in his third month at Millhaven. For how long more will he be there. When is he moving out.
Is he still getting bored or maybe doing some dofferent activities to keep him busy.

nahin · #44 04-17-2011, 08:12 PM

One more question Nicky--Can we get religious books mailed at Millhaven. I was thinking since there is so much time inside the cell, one can start reading religious books.
For that matter can we get any kind of books mailed to us at Millhaven.

JJ--Has your brother called since he went to Millhaven. How is he doing. May be he can apply for day parole and get out early.

nicky3 · #45 04-18-2011, 08:48 AM

Hi nahin

there is nothing to do while you are being assessed except the courses they tell you to do on that day. You can request library time or to see the councelor but there will be days when you will not be allowed outside your cell because of a lockdown or just because there is a guard that runs that yard differently or what ever. Life is extreemly boring inside be prepaired. I send hubby puzzles to do and letters everyday. You are not allowed to send books or magazines. They are very very stricked on what an inmate is allowed to receive through the mail. My youngest got a card sent back because the cover was glued to the inside part. The library might have religious books youd have to call Millhaven to find out. maybe you can donate some books to them but those books will be shared by everyone be prepared for that too. Hubby predicts he will be in millhaven for at least 4-6 months in total. Then he moves on to who knows where at this time anyways. he is very bored but has tv and letters and some books and he works out inside his cell until he moves he isnt doing much. the next place he will hopefully be able to tutor other inmates or do clerical work. something anyways to get him out of his cell and keep his mind occupied

CAP62 · #46 04-18-2011, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the info Nicky. I am glad your visit went ok.
Nahin, you could request to see the chaplain while you are in. He can hook you up with literature I'm sure.

nicky3 · #47 04-18-2011, 10:24 AM

your very welcome and youre right cap62 Id forgoten the chaplain. We arent really religious but hubby went to see him around week one said he was a nice man and I had a huge package of information sent to me about life in prison and how to adapt being outside it all. Im sure nahin he would be able to help you also.

nahin · #48 04-18-2011, 10:21 PM

Thanks Nicky and CAP,

Nicky--I thought that he will be in MAU for 3-4 months. Now you are saying that 4-6 months. What happened. Is it all because of the new Bill. I would rally in your neighbourhood to get everyone to vote for liberals.
One more thing--is the limit really only $500 for the year. I remember JJ saying that you can send as much as you want.

JJ--have you heard from your brother yet. Do you know what is the limit for sending money.

Lily-Please give some advise as to what is the best way to get approved for day parole. How can we hire a lawyer when we are inside the prison.

sjai · #49 04-19-2011, 03:05 AM

if anyone has any questions that havent been answered about Millhaven or any other institutions feel free to ask me, i sadly kno a lil too much then id care to kno o.O lol

nicky - if youre hubby goes to Bath, its definately one of the better places to be. let me know for sure where he goes when you find out. my guy was there for over a year & knows alot of ppl so he can check for him : ) he's @ frontenac now but he still tlks to a few of his close friends there!

nicky3 · #50 04-19-2011, 04:15 AM

thanks sjai we are praying and hoping and keeping fingers and toes crossed that he goes to Bath the other option just isnt sitting well with us. But like everything else inside its out of our hands. Hes just going to keep his nose clean stay out of trouble and beg the powers that be to send him to Bath.