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zoom30 · #1 05-22-2010, 08:25 AM

My son is on 8 days of lockdown for being disrespectful to the guards. The fact that he was rude does not surprise me at all since he has a common disregard for any authority. But I am just wondering what does it mean to be on lock down?

The jail will not tell me anything at all. The only reason I know is because his father tried to visit him and they turned him away. It drives me insane when my child is still only 17 and a "legal" minor but is charged as an adult in NC criminaly at age 16. Even though I am still legally responsible for his actions until he is 18, I can not get simple information regarding his status!

MotherJ · #2 05-22-2010, 09:17 AM

Most prisons call it Ad Seg for Administrative Segregation. They are on lock down in a single cell and get their meals brought to them, their goodies are taken away, such as raidio, sometimes even books, pens, envelopes, etc. I didn't hear from my son for a couple week when he was in since he had no way to write or call home. Usually they can't place commissary orders and sometimes are fed a restricted diet. All depends on where you are. My son, in a VA maximum security prison gets visits, but behind glass even when in Ad Seg, but if the whole prison or one pod are on lock down then that changes. I would continue to call and ask to speak to his counselor or someone higher up for more information. I know your frustration. Good luck!

sleepless in Tu · #3 05-22-2010, 11:47 AM

What MotherJ said sounds exactly right.They are by themselves,without their personal stuff,they are allowed out to shower and 1 hr.for "recreation"I'm so sorry,you must be very worried!I'm praying that everything goes alright and your son abides by the rules so that you don't have to go through any extra worries.Please keep us posted.

Ted's mom · #4 05-22-2010, 03:01 PM

Mother J gave a good explanation. Every facility has different rules but her description is a good general description. Not having visits are frequently part of the "punishment." I believe the law (at least in California) says they have to be allowed to receive mail so you may want to send lots. I know my son was on lockdown with the whole unit which was boring and increased tension and also in what used to be called "solitary confinement" and is now called ad seg. I think it is a pretty intense experience to be isolated like that even for a week or two. It is really no way to treat a human being and I think that someday we will look back on this kind of treatment and realize what a mistake it was. I think that once someone gets out of there the guys will look out for him for a day or two until he gets adjusted to being back in a group. I do know that most people will think twice about what is worth getting in trouble for after they have been through this so maybe he will decide that the little stuff isn't worth it in the future. Hang in there Mom - just a couple more days. Good luck.

djsmom · #5 05-22-2010, 06:49 PM

[quote]It drives me insane when my child is still only 17 and a "legal" minor but is charged as an adult in NC criminaly at age 16. Even though I am still legally responsible for his actions until he is 18, I can not get simple information regarding his status!/QUOTE]

welcome to nc. i love the geographical things of this place, but i sure do hate much of the rest. now i cant leave because all my kids came here..for me.

what prison is your son in? guess everyone explained lockdown to you. my son will be going in soon..though i been saying that for months now (appeal)
i keep telling him he wants to avoid ad seg no matter what. i hope he does when he gets there.

momalways · #6 05-22-2010, 11:16 PM

I'm sorry you're going through this at the moment Zoom30. Doesn't the whole idea just make you sick. My son was thrown in ad seg for a few days in juvie when he was 16, there'd been a fight, the warden had left for the weekend so they just threw everyone involved in ad seg until he came back and dealt with it all. Just him, half his clothes, and a blanket...

And we had that same problem getting information out of anyone - we hadn't been informed about this and we arrived to see him and were just told "no you can't see him, I can't give you any more information". (only his counselor could give us info - oh he was out for the weekend too..don't you just wonder WHO is in any position of authority on the weekends?)

Sickening. (...gee, and I wonder why he still acts out...)

I hope you can find out some more information, and hear something from your son again soon. Hang in there.

zoom30 · #7 05-23-2010, 07:48 AM

djsmom: He is still in the Harnett county jail right now. His lawyer does not think he will go to trial for 5 months or so.

Thanks for the replies. I now at least feel better knowing what is happening. There is no feeling like not knowing! Hopefully I will get a phone call from him on Thursday or Friday.

WantMySonHome · #8 05-23-2010, 11:38 AM

Zoom30, I know exactly how you feel. My son entered prison when he was 16, but did spend his 5 months in jail before he was sentenced. I would also get so upset that no one would tell me anything, it seemed like every week he was in lockdown for something. My son's attitude was usually the reason too, but he has matured a little since then, by the time he hit prison his attitude had gone way down. He does have a good counselor now, he returns phone calls and will even pull my son in his office if I call with a concern. I know it is frustrating, but stay strong and good luck I hope all goes well for your son in the next 5 months, my prayers will be with you both.

bumblebee37 · #9 05-26-2010, 11:53 AM

My son has spent a lot of time 'lockdown' threw the years because he fights not only the C.O.'s but other inmates. Even tho it is not something I like I understand that sometimes he just has to stand his groud or will be ran over. We on the outside take a lot for granted like having the security of being able to go to our room without another trying to take it, getting us a cup of coffee without another saying we 'owe' it to them, and the list goes on and on.
I am sorry you are going threw this.

Gavin123 · #10 05-26-2010, 03:59 PM

I'm sorry that you have no way to find out anything, that would kill me. I haven't had to deal with this YET, so I don't know. Others can tell you more I'm sure, but I do know, I am very persistant, and I would call and call until I found out what the heck is going on.

You are in my prayers...{{{HUGS}}}

carrieanne2 · #11 06-01-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zoom30

My son is on 8 days of lockdown for being disrespectful to the guards. The fact that he was rude does not surprise me at all since he has a common disregard for any authority. But I am just wondering what does it mean to be on lock down?

The jail will not tell me anything at all. The only reason I know is because his father tried to visit him and they turned him away. It drives me insane when my child is still only 17 and a "legal" minor but is charged as an adult in NC criminaly at age 16. Even though I am still legally responsible for his actions until he is 18, I can not get simple information regarding his status!

i know the feeling. my son was 17 and charged with murder and no one would let me see him or tell me anything. i had no more control over anything. they gave him an inmate number and turned him into state property. Don't they know that he is MINE. They charge minors as adults and treat them as that. i love you guys 4 listening to my story. we r not alone in this!!