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HOPE4FUTURE · #1 08-11-2010, 05:48 PM

The Detroit News

Pontiac
An Oakland Circuit Court judge has found the Michigan Parole Board improperly paroled Clarence Justin Aldred Jr., who broke into a Waterford Township home in 1984, beat his ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend with a baseball bat and then kidnapped her.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz0wLP4LiEN

fwhite02 · #2 08-12-2010, 11:39 AM

Is he going back to prison? This is crazy, I thought that there were certian guidelines. The board should be held accountable. But, from what I have seen some people who do what they are supose to do not make it out, and others do.

Lions Heart · #3 08-12-2010, 02:26 PM

I remember this case. This judge made this statement a little while ago. Yes he had to be returned to prison and he had a lawyer that was appealing it, I thought. In my opinion the courts should not have any jursidiction on whether someone is paroled or not. They gave that authority to the parole board. If they want to have control over that then there shouldn't be a parole board. You can't have it both ways.

fwhite02 · #4 08-12-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lions Heart

I remember this case. This judge made this statement a little while ago. Yes he had to be returned to prison and he had a lawyer that was appealing it, I thought. In my opinion the courts should not have any jursidiction on whether someone is paroled or not. They gave that authority to the parole board. If they want to have control over that then there shouldn't be a parole board. You can't have it both ways.

I agree if the board saw it fit that he be released then why could the judge go aganist that. I think that the problem with the pb board is that they pick and choose instead of just foloowing the guidelines that have been set for them. So I think the board should be held accountable.

RAJustice · #5 08-14-2010, 02:43 PM

Another reason to consider doing away with the parole system and going to flat sentencing.

fwhite02 · #6 08-15-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RAJustice

Another reason to consider doing away with the parole system and going to flat sentencing.

I agree.

jlzkmm · #7 08-15-2010, 09:12 PM

My only fear with flat sentencing is they will likely go with the max, so instead of my guy being eligible for parole at 3 years with a 3-15 he could be sentenced to a flat 15 years. Even though we ended up with a flop and now are looking at 4-15 years I personally would rather take my chance there than a max out of 15 with no opportunity of early release. I just don't think a flat sentencing in this state is the answer.... JMO

HOPE4FUTURE · #8 08-16-2010, 04:45 AM

I agree with you but I think they would probably go with a number in between, like 7 or 8 years.

RAJustice · #9 08-16-2010, 07:26 AM

I believe they would go with a lower number because the intent is to save money by reducing the length of stay.
But beyond all that the whole idea of kissing ass and begging for release sticks in my throat like trying to swallow a huge vitamin without water. It's just one more humiliation added to the pile of strip searches, being robbed of your first store bag, being led around in chains, et.

Or maybe I just need to review that whole lesson about pride going before the fall! LOL

Lions Heart · #10 08-16-2010, 10:01 AM

I think that there should be a range but I think that a person should be released on their ERD unless they have significant behavior issues (significant should be better defined). I think that the only role the parole board should have is after a person is released and then reincarcerated due to a parole violation. Then they should have jurisdiction. JMO

jlzkmm · #11 08-16-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lions Heart

I think that there should be a range but I think that a person should be released on their ERD unless they have significant behavior issues (significant should be better defined). I think that the only role the parole board should have is after a person is released and then reincarcerated due to a parole violation. Then they should have jurisdiction. JMO

Let's hold the prosecutors responsible for the plea deals they put together and not give them a back door to screw the Defendant a second time, by pulling what happened here... This is crap. The prosecutors put together these plea deals and then when they come to reality they want a "do over"...JMO

anothersurvivor · #12 09-04-2010, 04:31 AM

Read the article.

If judges want to have this jurisdiction, then abolish the parole board. Plain and simple.