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dakodia · #1 03-20-2011, 05:40 PM

Hi everyone! I can't believe I've finally made it to the point where I get to start dealing with release counselors. Only 3 months left to go. Yeah!

So, of course, we have an issue. I need to contact his release counselor but I have no idea who to contact. He was working with someone at OSCI. Then last week he was transferred to CRCI. Would the release counselor at OSCI finish up his case (or whatever they call it), or would it all be transferred to someone at CRCI, or would I need to find someone in Salem? Any advice on where to start?

Thanks!

Scott · #2 03-21-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dakodia

Hi everyone! I can't believe I've finally made it to the point where I get to start dealing with release counselors. Only 3 months left to go. Yeah!

So, of course, we have an issue. I need to contact his release counselor but I have no idea who to contact. He was working with someone at OSCI. Then last week he was transferred to CRCI. Would the release counselor at OSCI finish up his case (or whatever they call it), or would it all be transferred to someone at CRCI, or would I need to find someone in Salem? Any advice on where to start?

The best thing to do would ask him who is release counselor is (it will be someone at CRCI)...and second to that, go to the online, Oregon inmate Database, search for his name, and it will tell you who is counselor is. Call CRCI and ask to speak to them...

It's pretty easy. Let us know if you need more specific info (i.e. phone numbers, etc...) I'm happy to help you track it all down.

dakodia · #3 03-22-2011, 07:21 AM

Thanks Scott. Because it was a program failure (2 days before he transferred...never does anything the easy way) I had to go through both his old counselor - who was awesome by the way - as she was the one who had to decide how to "code" it and his new counselor as he has access to my man. Bottom line...no DR/no loss of good time. Whew!

8 years, 4 months down - 3 months to go. It doesn't even seem real yet.

betsyblue · #4 03-30-2011, 09:39 PM

Hey guuys my man is getting a compact transfee to oregon to his mothers house. At this point everything is out of my control and I'm worried his mom my ruin the chhance of him being paroled there because of pitbulls and his brother lives there with a medical marijuana card. Could someone please tell me what exactly what oregon parole works please and thank you!!!

Scott · #5 03-30-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by betsyblue

Hey guuys my man is getting a compact transfee to oregon to his mothers house. At this point everything is out of my control and I'm worried his mom my ruin the chhance of him being paroled there because of pitbulls and his brother lives there with a medical marijuana card. Could someone please tell me what exactly what oregon parole works please and thank you!!!

Betsy...sorry but there are no easy answers to your questions...from the way you described his mother's it is possible that such a living arrangement could be turned down for interstate transfer...especially if his brother is growing marijuana on the premises (regardless of the marijuana card). If drugs are any part of your friend's past, you can pretty well guess the outcome. You didn't mention guns on the property...another potential trouble spot.

If the pitbulls are there to "guard" the marijuana, it's fairly unlikely the visiting parole officer will look kindly on the whole situation. Sorry.

What would work would be a reasonable, normal household - which his mother's may well be, but from your description....

You certainly identified what will probably be the two most difficult items.

betsyblue · #6 03-31-2011, 12:48 PM

Hey scott yeah I know I'm pretty upset about this. He dosent grow buw he is a patient. I don't know how to tell them ti please clean out the house! I just hope that his mom will do that for him. The pitbull isant a guard dog she's very old and harmless but I heard pitbulls are not allowed is that true?

TLAn4ever · #7 03-31-2011, 01:25 PM

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Hey scott yeah I know I'm pretty upset about this. He dosent grow buw he is a patient. I don't know how to tell them ti please clean out the house! I just hope that his mom will do that for him. The pitbull isant a guard dog she's very old and harmless but I heard pitbulls are not allowed is that true?

As long as the dog is friendly, that shouldn't be a problem. I have 2 pitbulls and probation has never cared. I don't believe just having a medical marijuana card would automatically caucse the house to be turned down, but I'm sure they will want to know the specifics, such as will any be on the premises etc. Good luck!

TLAn4ever · #8 03-31-2011, 01:27 PM

sorry for the duplicate, my computer is possessed :-)

betsyblue · #9 03-31-2011, 04:02 PM

Thanks appreciate it

but I did see u were talking about probation not parole is that correxct?

TLAn4ever · #10 03-31-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by betsyblue

Thanks appreciate it

but I did see u were talking about probation not parole is that correxct?

In Oregon they are the same office.

one_luv · #11 03-31-2011, 10:22 PM

If they come to the house and they see or smell parafenelia or product, even with the card, they will likely deny it. Although you don't want to lie to them, I wouldn't volunteer the information about him having a card, and have the brother keep his stuff up and smoke outside. Outright telling them there is someone living there with a card could cause them to automatically deny it and not go any further by visiting the premises. Although there are certainly situations where OMMP has been allowed, it is not the general rule, especially when someone is first being paroled or transfered. Keep in mind that most counties are so overloaded with cases they really want a reason to deny a transfer.

I don't think it is so much the breed of dog as if it's "dangerous". Some pitbulls can be very friendly, so they usually take the dog's behavior into consideration. However, if they are looking for a reason to deny, their breed could come into play.

I have had 3 people parole to my house, and in my opinion, your situation can be worked with if you go about it in the right manner, but it is definitely not a sure thing. I wish you and the family the best.

betsyblue · #12 04-01-2011, 08:13 PM

Thank you one luv I needed to hear some sort of hope

it just really sux that I have no control over it at this point, and its driving me crazy.I just wish he could parole to me because my house is spotless. Let me ask u this...if u were in my situation how would u go about asking his mother to clean the house out? The whole plan was for her to move out into her own apartment. But my man will be out in a little over 2 months and the move may take longer.

Scott · #13 04-01-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by betsyblue

Thank you one luv I needed to hear some sort of hope

it just really sux that I have no control over it at this point, and its driving me crazy.I just wish he could parole to me because my house is spotless. Let me ask u this...if u were in my situation how would u go about asking his mother to clean the house out? The whole plan was for her to move out into her own apartment. But my man will be out in a little over 2 months and the move may take longer.

Since you raised the issue, why can't he parole to you?

betsyblue · #14 04-02-2011, 01:23 PM

Hey scott he can't parole to me because we are not married. Also if he does get transfered to oregon can he later transfer to another county up to me in portland?7 does he have to become a resident first? How hard is it to get a county transfer?......thank you I appreciate all the info

Scott · #15 04-02-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by betsyblue

Hey scott he can't parole to me because we are not married. Also if he does get transfered to oregon can he later transfer to another county up to me in portland?7 does he have to become a resident first? How hard is it to get a county transfer?......thank you I appreciate all the info

If he is a resident of Oregon (or was), as I read the rules of Interstate Compact he could parole to you, If he's not, it's more complicated - and then he might be stuck with his family. It would pay to call your local office of Community Corrections, ask to speak to a supervisor, and explain that he is planning to parole to his mother, but that it isn't an "optimal" living situation for him. Would a plan paroling to you be acceptable? Never hurts to ask.

The inter-County transfer can certainly happen, in fact, mostly ANYTHING can happen, as long as he doesn't cause any problems while on supervision.

It's only the "problem kids" who have trouble once they establish a track record.

betsyblue · #16 04-02-2011, 09:32 PM

Well what exaclty do u mean by problem child? Lol he may be classified as one since he almost always gets violated for obsounding. Now he lived with me for a year in oregon without getting into any trouble but he was obscounding the whole time so I'm not sure if that makes him a legal resident???? And were not married I don't want to mess anything up by trying to get him to transfer with me and get denied. His po told me he can't transfer to me but once he establishes residency he can and that's what 6 months in oregon? but by that time he will be finished with parole now say he did get transfered to his moms the later tried to transfer to me do we have to be married? And also if he does get denied from his moms can we try again and would it be another 45 days to go through? Thank you!

Scott · #17 04-02-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by betsyblue

Well what exaclty do u mean by problem child? Lol he may be classified as one since he almost always gets violated for obsounding. Now he lived with me for a year in oregon without getting into any trouble but he was obscounding the whole time so I'm not sure if that makes him a legal resident???? And were not married I don't want to mess anything up by trying to get him to transfer with me and get denied. His po told me he can't transfer to me but once he establishes residency he can and that's what 6 months in oregon? but by that time he will be finished with parole now say he did get transfered to his moms the later tried to transfer to me do we have to be married? And also if he does get denied from his moms can we try again and would it be another 45 days to go through? Thank you!

From your description he would be classified as a problem child. Like anyone else, the PPO's appreciate people who make less work for them, not more - so in bending the rules or doing "favors" they are not so likely to do it for people who can't get with the program (i.e. "absconding" the whole time he's on parole...)

It's so easy to do parole and get off it that I always wonder what's up with people who have such a hard time with the rules. If he gets denied for his Mom's (and the issues you described there, especially the marijuana if any of his stuff is drug related, or he has any history of substance abuse) he may end up staying in whatever state it was he was most recently convicted of.

Had he a good, or even reasonable relationship with a PO here, one who might try and go to bat for him, it could be different - but it doesn't sound like he was very good at being on parole, so no one would likely take the risk to try and help him out.

Karma is like that...

TLAn4ever · #18 04-03-2011, 11:32 AM

What state is he transferring from?

betsyblue · #19 04-03-2011, 02:49 PM

California......his restitution is payed his po is doing this because hos whole family including his his kids are in oregon...the biggest issue that's being pushed is the fact that his life is in danger in cali and has bulletholes and she wants stab wounds to prove it. I'm pretty sure his mom will clean the house out for him because she wants to see him do good I just hope she know what's not allowed is all.he's been on parole for 10 yrs and when he gets out only has 6 more months on parole. He will do good since he dosent have a drug addiction or ahlcohol problem

(thank god) he's an amazing tattoo artist and has a job lined up but that's here in portland. I actually have him set up the best artist in portlans and they are willing to wait for him we are just ready to start our bright future but are jumping through the loop thankyou for the info though

TLAn4ever · #20 04-03-2011, 10:15 PM

My husband was on parole in CA for many years, maxed it out twice.

The last time, he had absconded to OR because we didn't have a place to live there and the rest of our family had moved to OR so we joined them. When they finally caught up to him (and they always do

) he got sent back for a few months. When he got out, he provided proof he had a job where we were living in OR (it was just across the border) they just said that he still had to check in with them once a week and left his actual living status "don't ask don't tell". So that's what we did for the 4 months he had left on parole. His PO was actually very nice and I think she was just happy he was getting his life together after dealing with him for so many years.

I realize that Portland is not close enough for that type of arrangement, but I thought I'd share my story anyway just to let you know that depending on the PO and the circumstances sometimes they can be reasonable.

betsyblue · #21 04-04-2011, 02:37 PM

Wow this is exaxtly our problem our story is similair

unfortunetly I do have to do an IC but he will be getting out in june and I will be spending the summer with him and I'm able to have my bro house sit all summer long and long as the transfer goes through.my man almost maxed out by a few months. He's ready to do good and since he has no drug problem and as long as he's in oregon I don't see him having a problem with being good on parole

after he gets out 6 more months on parole yaya. I see your waiting for urs again I'm sooo sorry its not easy! Most important thing is staying positive!!