Two Faces: What you see and the 'prison' side

[WaitingOnEddie]

So...I was just thinking about how inmates have to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive in there. Part of those adaptations are emotional/mental ones. They can't be seen as weak...because if you show weakness, that makes you prey. That saying...'It's a dog eat dog world' is spot on when it comes to prison. That's just how it is.

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

[SunshineWife]

My husband is pretty new to prison so he is still in the beginning stages of adapting. I do think about and worry that he will be hardened and it may affect our marriage when he gets out. But as of so far, I have only seen him be humbled and become more greatful for me, his children, and the life he once had.

[EST.51207]

I thought it had humbled him as well until this morning. I can see this time it has taken a toll on him when I saw his "billy badass" side as you called it. It quote frankly disgusted me. Or maybe thats just who he is. Frusturating.

[His1]

Originally Posted by WaitingOnEddie

So...I was just thinking about how inmates have to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive in there. Part of those adaptations are emotional/mental ones. They can't be seen as weak...because if you show weakness, that makes you prey. That saying...'It's a dog eat dog world' is spot on when it comes to prison. That's just how it is.

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

1. Yes my husband has a "prison" side. He doesn't act like Billy Bad Ass, he's just really quiet, and doesn't show any emotion, but is friendly. When we're together, he's my husband, and gives me what he can, within the confines of where we are.

2. I've seen it most of our married life. It's some thing that I feel is apart of him now.
He's guarded, and very protective of me and our family.

4. It concerns me as far as his emotions are concerned. I don't want him to be cut off from not showing emotion and feeling emotion. It does affect his family relationships. Also, his abililty to gain employment. Alot of employers don't want to hire you, if you have a prison record.

[MIKAER]

Originally Posted by WaitingOnEddie

So...I was just thinking about how inmates have to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive in there. Part of those adaptations are emotional/mental ones. They can't be seen as weak...because if you show weakness, that makes you prey. That saying...'It's a dog eat dog world' is spot on when it comes to prison. That's just how it is.

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?
I have seen --Got it's going on guy-- He used to be pretty high up, lots of years locked up lots of street experience. The 1st few trips they are angry but then they get used to it and start missing the macaroni salad and then go back....

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?
I have seen his face go far away... I first saw it when I asked about his tats. I have known him to just disappear until he gets arrested. I am told he was the-- go to guy,-- every one gives him respect... I make him tell me everything, how he feels about his life, inside and outside the walls, He gets to see it through my eyes...

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?
That was the reason we originally became friends I wanted to know about his life, what he had walked through...Together we have changed a lot of it, recycled his skills for the good.

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

No all of this experience can be used to help youth that's what he really wants to do....

[phenomenalwoman]

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

yes. i do. although i think he maintains himself in there and doesnt fight, etc ...i think hes savin all the mushy goopey stuff for me and would never show that to anyone else.not even his family so much.

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

i havent seen it, but i sense it. when he gets upset he automatically jumps like an attack dog instead of talking thru it or asking questions.

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

i dont want to see it because thats not the man i want to be with . it is part of him, sadly,but i prefer to move on when he gets out and focus on us.

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes

yes. always. im concerned will be less sweet and meaner when he gets out?

[lil peep]

1. He definitely has a prison side or a mean face as he put it. He doesn't act like Billy Badass...I think the best way to put it is he kind of shuts down so he can get through his days. He is different with me...he relaxes with me and is himself. He doesn't keep that mask on when he's with me.

2. I have seen the prison side of him. He does his own thing. He tries to do his time and doesn't mess with people cause he can. But he's quiet and keeps to himself. It wasn't scary or anything and it didn't make me nervous. I just wanted to know what was behind the mask.

3. Does it concern me? It doesn't concern me per say...he doesn't shut down with me, he doesn't hide his feelings and even if he's let things bottle up for a while eventually we talk about them and get everything out. So I look at it like he's in survival mode in prison. He's going to bring some of that home with him, but I don't think it's going to be a huge obstacle.

[ladyelise]

Originally Posted by WaitingOnEddie

So...I was just thinking about how inmates have to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive in there. Part of those adaptations are emotional/mental ones. They can't be seen as weak...because if you show weakness, that makes you prey. That saying...'It's a dog eat dog world' is spot on when it comes to prison. That's just how it is.

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

I think there are excuses used to validate bad behavior and since no one is in prison for singing too loud in the church choir, what else can they say "I'm scared to death and I cry myself to sleep". A "new booty" coming to prison wanting to make his bones by being "hard" isn't fooling anyone, especially if they short-timers. Them old heads in there have seen it all.
I've seen a guy 6'5" easy 305 pounds in visiting, be "ordered" by another inmate to "bring me my food". Now keep in mind this guy was sitting at the table with his woman, getting ready to eat the food from the vending machines that she'd just purchased. Well, oh girl went straight off on the other guy and the boss man told the giant to leave the visit and he did!
If they really billy badass they wouldn't advertise it, I suppose anyone can claim to be the devil until the real devil shows up! Good post!

[MIKAER]

I think there is a prison side and I have seen the PTSD and the fear inmates experiences. I cannot chalk the up to bad behavior your example:

I've seen a guy 6'5" easy 305 pounds in visiting, be "ordered" by another inmate to "bring me my food". Now keep in mind this guy was sitting at the table with his woman, getting ready to eat the food from the vending machines that she'd just purchased. Well, oh girl went straight off on the other guy and the boss man told the giant to leave the visit and he did!

Is bad behavior, and that should have been delt with by the Co's.....
Where were they at the time?

[Temeron0926]

Good questions!
So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

Oh I know he has a "prison" side. He has to. I don't really think he acts like a Billy Badass but I DO know that the guys in there know not to mess with him. Ray is an 'old timer' so they know him in there and he doesn't really have to show his 'bad side' much. It is there if he needs it tho.

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

I have seen glimpses of his prison side and I am pretty sure I don't like it. Thank God I don't see it often, but I do know what it is like. It can be scary. He hasn't shown it towards me, but he has shown it when telling me about things that happen. It is mean, and it is dangerous.

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?


4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

Him having a prison side doesn't really concern me as long as he realizes that once he is out of prison (with time) that person really needs to stay where he is, inside.

[Chuckie's Love]

He has been locked up more then a few times. I see all his faces and I can tell you I love them all. He is quick tempered, but lets things go easy after he blows. I do think this is because of prison. I can tell you that I have to pry things about prison out of him when we are on visits or on the phone. He thinks I can't tell when something is amiss. I know him better then he knows himself, lol! He does not want me to worry or stress. He says I am his safe place and he does not want me tarnished by the hell he lives in for now. So I can say he has a different face for prison, but I've seen it and its part of him now. Has been for years and I accept it always.

[JaydedDragon]

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

Yes he does have a prison side. He is much more suspicious and asinine I have noticed inside the gates. I know he acts differently towards me in every way. It's all very confusing when I think about it. LOL

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

Yes I have seen his prison side. I hate it. It is a very scary and hateful person.

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

I have seen it and it is not pretty.

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

Yes, yes it does and I have expressed this to him quite a few times. He keeps telling me that that person will not 'come out' unless he's needed in whatever situation...but from what I have seen of him on the outside, that person is around a lot...and that concerns me. I guess it's something I am going to have to deal with.

[sexychica]

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?
Definately.

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?
Yes I have seen his prison side.I was , it hurt felt like he punched me in the gut because his prison side is very cold I felt in that moment he was sending our relationship backwards to a point where he still had his guard up.He was so cold and he cursed a lot which is so different for him...
Now I am glad I was able to hear his prison side he was very angry mostly at all the things he been through but also at me but I know that I hurt his feelings and he felt a need to retreat behind the cold mask at that time.
Later he pointed out the fact that he doesn't like it but I CAN hurt him emotionally and I feel like I got to see that he had fears too when it comes to giving his heart.

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?
I have seen his prison side but he better leave it at the gate.

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?
No he's always really patient with me which i need to work on myself.
Though it feels much better to know of this side than not to.

[codasgirl04]

This post made me laugh...i was a pto junkie a few years ago I guess I've seen it all & even during visiting when they say whats up to someone that you know sure as heck they wouldnt be talking to back in the unit!

[Beachhouse]

No prison side , yet! He hasn't gotten there yet. He's still in jail. He is a private person and I am worried that this will make him more withdrawn. he also is not a fighting type person but he has said he will do what he has to. To make sure people leave him alone.
I worry how he will change by the time he gets out.

[LifeTraveler]

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

Oh, I KNOW he has a "prison side". He doesn't act like a Billy Badass, but nobody messes with him either.

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

I have seen his "prison side" on a couple of occasions when he was out. He's very protective of his loved ones. If the man is pushed into a corner, he's dangerous.

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

Like I said, I've seen his, and I'd rather not see it anymore.

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

No, it doesn't. As much as some thinks can piss him off, he won't really go off unless his life or the lives are his loved ones are in danger.

[Ohusillywabbit]

Originally Posted by WaitingOnEddie

So...I was just thinking about how inmates have to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive in there. Part of those adaptations are emotional/mental ones. They can't be seen as weak...because if you show weakness, that makes you prey. That saying...'It's a dog eat dog world' is spot on when it comes to prison. That's just how it is.

So my questions are...

1. Do you think he has a 'prison' side...like, do you think he acts like a Billy Badass in there and then acts like a different man towards you?

2. Have you seen his prison side? If so...how did it make you feel? What is it like?

3. If you haven't seen his prison side...do you want to? Do you not want to? What do you think it would be like?

4. Does him having a 'prison' side concern you as far as the future goes?

1. I know he has a prison side, he will act like billy bad ass if it calls for it in extreme circumstances ie: If he had to protect himself.
2. I've seen the prison side which is only how'll he'll act with the homies, It dosn't make me feel any kind of way to me that's just men being men around each other.
3. No I havn't seen the bad ass fully, I've seen some of his temper but I've got the knack to subdue him quicker than a click of the fingers.
4. For my personal safety, no it does not concern me. But it does slightly if someone were to actually push his buttons, he can be one mean b*stard.

[lil peep]

I wanted to add something real quick cause I was thinking about this in reference to his list of write-ups and I haven't seen the guy who acts out. I haven't seen him in a fight or trying to defend himself, but apparently he's not to be messed with from what I've heard. So in a sense I haven't seen the whole prison side of him, if that makes sense.